3D Printer

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Hi there,

I am thinking of buying a 3D printer, but I do not know anything about them.

I would like to use only Free Software, that's the first requirement I can think of. The second one is price. Then comes usability, well-documented, community-supported...

Any advice?

By the way, should have I posted this question to The Troll Lounge or is it ok to send it here?

Thanks!

Archetyp
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Aleph Objects is a Colorado based company that manufactures and sells LulzBot 3D printers that are certified to Respect Your Freedom. :-)

http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/aleph-objects

https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom

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Hey, thank you.

Sorry, I was not accurate at all when I said I did not know anything.
Actually I knew about the existence of those Lulzbot 3D printers from
the Free Software Foundation site, but I wanted to know about those
cheaper 3D printers now in the market, if they work ok with only Free
Software, and opinions about them.

Thanks again!

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As for the cheaper printers currently in the market, I say the same
thing that I would say about other hardware/devices: Imagine that our
"free/libre software house" is burning (and it probably is already,
because the number of blobs in the original Linux kernel keeps growing),
now notice that the RYF-certified devices listed in the FSF page at
[[https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom]]
are the "big fire extinguishers", and the free/libre software friendly
devices (those which are in the market but that we are lucky for finding
out that they work, like the ones that have B or A grade in
[[https://h-node.org/]]) are the "fire delayers".

Fire delayers only delay fire, but only big fire extinguishers can
extinguish all the fire in the "burning free/libre software house".

That said: if you are considering buying *new* hardware, buy those that
are RYF-certified, this way we can keep the free/libre software movement
alive. If you are getting used hardware, then contribute your
tests/findings to h-node.

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Oops, another thing I forgot to say: I had a look on h-node too, but
found no 3D printer, maybe I did not know how to look it up.

Yes, I agree. Nice analogy.

But now imagine that Trisquel and Debian are not gratis, and Trisquel is
expensive and Debian cheap. With the money I have, I might en up
becoming a Debian buyer (using only its Free repository). That would be
my case for 3D Printers now.

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I have a Reprap (Prusa i3) which I built myself. Took about four evenings to complete it. Runs on an Arduino Mega. Bought the DIY set for 450 euro.

Great learning experience for constructing, simple soldering and programming.

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Excellent!

Does everything work ok with only Free Software? Would there be any
reason to exclude the Prusa i3 printer from being eligible to the
Respect Your Freedom certificate?

On 12/07/17 15:39, name at domain wrote:
> I have a Reprap (Prusa i3) which I built myself. Took about four
> evenings to complete it. Runs on an Arduino Mega. Bought the DIY set
> for 450 euro.
>
> Great learning experience for constructing, simple soldering and
> programming.

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Well, perhaps the providers of it have to contact the FSF to ask for an
evaluation?

If there is indeed interest, then I guess one could ask the providers to
do it. However, I don't know the providers nor their product very well,
so I'm not able to do it right now, also because of time
constraints. But I can aid in text reviewing before sending if you do
wish to.

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GNU Ring, ou Tox. Quer outras formas de contato? Adicione o vCard
que está no endereço acima aos teus contatos.
- Pretende me enviar arquivos .doc, .ppt, .cdr, ou .mp3? OK, eu
aceito, mas não repasso. Entrego apenas em formatos favoráveis ao
/software/ livre. Favor entrar em contato em caso de dúvida.

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Thank you. I just wanted to know if anyone knew about any freedom
restriction on that printer (Reprap Prusa i3 running on an Arduino Mega).

On 17/07/17 22:16, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> Well, perhaps the providers of it have to contact the FSF to ask for an
> evaluation?
>
> If there is indeed interest, then I guess one could ask the providers to
> do it. However, I don't know the providers nor their product very well,
> so I'm not able to do it right now, also because of time
> constraints. But I can aid in text reviewing before sending if you do
> wish to.
>

sleepruim
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Well the firmware it runs on (Marlin 3d printer firmware) is gpl3:

https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin

I use slic3r and printrun for printing which are also gpl3 (and in the debian stretch repos)