Debian with Hurd

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vita_cell
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Hi, Had someone tryed Debian/Hurd?

onpon4
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I haven't, but it isn't substantially different compared to Debian GNU/Linux from an end-user perspective... assuming it works and doesn't crash. Don't bother with it unless you're contributing to Hurd development.

davidnotcoulthard (non verificado)
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it isn't substantially different compared to Debian GNU/Linux from an end-user perspective... assuming it works and doesn't crash.
Those are sadly....quite a contradiction, for now.

davidnotcoulthard (non verificado)
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it isn't substantially different compared to Debian GNU/Linux from an
end-user perspective... assuming it works and doesn't crash.
Those are sadly....quite a contradiction, for now.

pizzaiolo
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If anyone would be willing to test Hurd + Libreboot, please report!

vita_cell
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I can test, but, I never tryed to install GNU with Hurd, and I expect too much problems to solve, I have no experience with it.

I am very curious, want to try Hurd. I know, we need more open hardware and not more software, but Hurd is here, and people can test it.

pizzaiolo
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Cool! Also, remember to come to #libreboot more often. We need more macbook users to test newer versions of libreboot :)

vita_cell
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Francis told me, but it is risky fo me. I can not reflash, cuz I do not have BBB. Every macbook I bought cost me around 200€.

vita_cell
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Francis told me, but it is risky fo me. I can not reflash, cuz I do not have
BBB. Every macbook I bought cost me around 200€.

vita_cell
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OK.

Already we have 2 strong bugs in librebooted Macbook.

pizzaiolo
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Cool! Also, remember to come to #libreboot more often. We need more macbook
users to test newer versions of libreboot :)

vita_cell
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OK.

Already we have 2 strong bugs in librebooted Macbook.

vita_cell
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I can test, but, I never tryed to install GNU with Hurd, and I expect too
much problems to solve, I have no experience with it.

I am very curious, want to try Hurd. I know, we need more open hardware and
not more software, but Hurd is here, and people can test it.

Allanitomwesh
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I recently downloaded it,couldn't get it to live boot. I'll try burning it to a DVD.

vita_cell
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Important:

On real hardware:

* Note that in addition to support for IDE, GNU Mach has drivers for SATA
devices, but only in AHCI mode, not in RAID mode.

* Installation CDs include the 2.6.32 Linux network drivers, and should
thus cover a wide range of network boards. There is however no support for
firmware loading.

* There is no support for wireless network devices.

* There are no USB stick drivers, so images can be used only on real CD/DVD
media.

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Allanitomwesh
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No WiFi? Bummer. Gonna check it out anyway.

vita_cell
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I burnt "debian-hurd-2015-i386-DVD-1.iso", and I am not able to boot it with librebooted Thinkpad x60. When on Libreboot menu I select "Parse ISOLINUX menu (CD/DVD)" and it loads something, after some seconds it returns me to the same menu (main libreboot).

Debian with Linux kernel, boots fine.

I doing something wrong? or it is a wrong image?

(Always, I am only able to boot something with "dd", other programs doesn't work for me).

vita_cell
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Hi, Had someone tryed Debian/Hurd?

suitsmeveryfine
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I select "Parse ISOLINUX menu (CD/DVD)" and it loads something, after some seconds it returns me to the same menu (main libreboot). [Am] I doing something wrong?

Yes, for some reason you assumed that Linux is the Hurd. "Parse ISOLINUX" in libreboot is a particular method of loading Linux (+GNU). It is not the only way to boot GNU/Linux, however. GNU GuixSD with Linux-libre, for example, boots from its own GRUB configuration file. If you want to learn how to boot GNU/Hurd from libreboot's GRUB menu you should read the GRUB manual I think. If you can make it work, please share your experience.

vita_cell
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Yes, I know that Hurd it is not copy/paste of Linux. But I have no other option in Libreboot. Ok, I will, thanks for you recommendation.

suitsmeveryfine
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Yes, there are many more options in Libreboot's GRUB menu. Every entry is
just a bunch of commands that you can view and edit by pressing `e`. You can
also open the GRUB terminal directly by pressing `c` and then type the
commands necessary to boot. Even of the existing Libreboot menu entries there
is an alternative to Parse ISOLINUX, namely "Search for GRUB configuration
outside of CBFS". As I explained above, this is the method of booting GuixSD.

vita_cell
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Yes, I know that Hurd it is not copy/paste of Linux. But I have no other
option in Libreboot. Ok, I will, thanks for you recommendation.

suitsmeveryfine
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Yes, there are many more options in Libreboot's GRUB menu. Every entry is just a bunch of commands that you can view and edit by pressing `e`. You can also open the GRUB terminal directly by pressing `c` and then type the commands necessary to boot. Even of the existing Libreboot menu entries there is an alternative to Parse ISOLINUX, namely "Search for GRUB configuration outside of CBFS". As I explained above, this is the method of booting GuixSD.

suitsmeveryfine
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I select "Parse ISOLINUX menu (CD/DVD)" and it loads something, after some
seconds it returns me to the same menu (main libreboot). [Am] I doing
something wrong?

Yes, for some reason you assumed that Linux is the Hurd. "Parse ISOLINUX" in
libreboot is a particular method of loading Linux (+GNU). It is not the only
way to boot GNU/Linux, however. GuixSD, for example, boots from its own GRUB
configuration file. If you want to learn how to boot GNU/Hurd from
libreboot's GRUB menu you should read the GRUB manual I think. If you can
make it work, please share your experience.

onpon4
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Joined: 05/30/2012

I haven't, but it isn't substantially different from an end-user
perspective... assuming it works and doesn't crash. Don't bother with it
unless you're contributing to Hurd development.

pizzaiolo
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Joined: 03/12/2015

If anyone would be willing to test Hurd + Libreboot, please report!

Allanitomwesh
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Joined: 10/24/2015

I recently downloaded it,couldn't get it to live boot. I'll try burning it to
a DVD.

vita_cell
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Joined: 07/19/2015

On real hardware:

* Note that in addition to support for IDE, GNU Mach has drivers for SATA
devices, but only in AHCI mode, not in RAID mode.

* Installation CDs include the 2.6.32 Linux network drivers, and should
thus cover a wide range of network boards. There is however no support
for
firmware loading.

* There is no support for wireless network devices.

* There are no USB stick drivers, so images can be used only on real CD/DVD
media.

Allanitomwesh
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Joined: 10/24/2015

No WiFi? Bummer. Gonna check it out anyway.

vita_cell
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Joined: 07/19/2015

I burnt "debian-hurd-2015-i386-DVD-1.iso", and I am not able to boot it with
librebooted Thinkpad x60. When on Libreboot menu I select "Parse ISOLINUX
menu (CD/DVD)" and it loads something, after some seconds it returns me to
the same menu (main libreboot).

Debian with Linux kernel, boots fine.

I doing something wrong? or it is a wrong image?

vita_cell
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WTF, why all our messages repeating theirself. It is a new forum's feature?

vita_cell
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WTF, why all our messages repeating theirself.

Allanitomwesh
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So I tried to install Debian GNU/Hurd 2015
1. The graphical installers don't work only the text installer got me anywhere
2. It takes a long long time to install
3. Even though it finished installing it still gave an error and didn't boot

The error was "FILE SYSTEM NOT MOUNTED CLEANLY PLEASE fsck" anyone have any ideas on that?

jxself
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May I suggest that the proper place for help with Debian is Debian's own support channels?

jxself
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May I suggest that the proper place for help with Debian is Debian's own
support channels?

Allanitomwesh
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Joined: 10/24/2015

So I tried to install Debian GNU/Hurd 2015
1. The graphical installers don't work only the text installer got me
anywhere
2. It takes a long long time to install
3. Even though it finished installing it still gave an error and didn't boot

The error was "FILE SYSTEM NOT MOUNTED CLEANLY PLEASE fsck" anyone have any
ideas on that?