Fresh install issue - Need Help - New user :-)

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orthinac
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screen flickering sdb drive cache data failed errors system hangs forcing me to reboot AAAAGH!
Please help,

thanks,
Steve

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Are you certain the hardware (in particular the hard drive) is not defective?

orthinac
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I have only dba

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Hard disks have a small amount of RAM cache to speed up write operations. The system can write a chunk of data to the disk cache without actually waiting for it to be written to the disk. This is sometimes called "write-back" mode.

If there is no cache on the disk, data is directly written to it in "write-through" mode.


The Asking for cache data failed warning usually occurs with devices such as USB flash drives, USB card readers, etc. which present themselves as SCSI devices to the system (sdX), but have no cache.


The system asks the device for cache and gets no response. So it assumes there is no cache and puts it in "write-through" mode.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/167343/what-is-a-asking-for-cache-data-failed-warning

This may help?or not... no idea if you can perform this if you are actually booting Trisquel from USB

The hdparm utility allows to enable or disable write caching for IDE-based drives. Be very careful with hdparm, as it can do a lot of nasty stuff to your hard drive.

/sbin/hdparm -W 0 /dev/hda 0 Disable write caching
/sbin/hdparm -W 1 /dev/hda 1 Enable write caching

/dev/ sdb
https://superuser.com/questions/526248/turn-off-write-cache-on-all-usb-external-drives-debian-ubuntu-linux

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Hard disks have a small amount of RAM cache to speed up write operations. The
system can write a chunk of data to the disk cache without actually waiting
for it to be written to the disk. This is sometimes called "write-back" mode.

If there is no cache on the disk, data is directly written to it in
"write-through" mode.

The Asking for cache data failed warning usually occurs with devices such as
USB flash drives, USB card readers, etc. which present themselves as SCSI
devices to the system (sdX), but have no cache.

The system asks the device for cache and gets no response. So it assumes
there is no cache and puts it in "write-through" mode.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/167343/what-is-a-asking-for-cache-data-failed-warning

This may help?or not...i have no idea if you perform this if you are actaully
booting trisquel from USB

The hdparm utility allows to enable or disable write caching for IDE-based
drives. Be very careful with hdparm, as it can do a lot of nasty stuff to
your hard drive.

/sbin/hdparm -W 0 /dev/hda 0 Disable write caching
/sbin/hdparm -W 1 /dev/hda 1 Enable write caching

/dev/ sdb
https://superuser.com/questions/526248/turn-off-write-cache-on-all-usb-external-drives-debian-ubuntu-linux

orthinac
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ok now im thinking I have more than one issue , sigh ,
thanks for the detailed response I'll do some more digging!

Regards,
Steve

MeNoMore
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Perhaps, if you are booting from a USB drive, format the drive, put Trisquel on it and boot from it again?

I doubt a fresh installation will leave you with problems, such as you are having.

Kind regards, and welcome to Trisquel/gnuLinux.
We are here for support, ask anytime!

-- Victoria Diamond

orthinac
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Thanks, I think the support here is awesome!

regards,
Steve
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orthinac
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Thanks, I think the support here is awesome!

regards,
Steve
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Steven Field

orthinac
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trying kali-linux-2.0-amd64.iso just to test the hardware I had ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop before and only had a minor issue with the nvidia display driver so I think the issue with trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso is not hardware related. Maybe I should give gentoo a go? at least I will have the source then. I wonder if gentoo is 100% free software too, I just thought that I would try the Richard Stallman approch, I heard(no pun intended) he has trisquel on his laptop :-)

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The freest you can get with Gentoo is with the "deblob" keyword in the USE variable and ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FSF-APPROVED @FSF-APPROVED-OTHER". All that can be defined in /etc/make.conf. That is not perfect though: programs that raise subtle issues, such as those listed at http://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines , would probably be installed unaltered despite those settings.

lembas
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Just out of morbid curiosity, does this also cover Linux?

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The "deblob" keyword aim to get a deblobbed Linux. I do not really know how it works (one should take a look at the ebuild). It may fetch and execute a deblobbing script (that of the Linux-libre project?).

lembas
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Ah, right. Thanks!

lembas
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Ah, right. Thanks!

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The "deblob" keyword aim to get a deblobbed Linux. I do not really know how
it works (one should take a look at the ebuild). It may fetch and execute a
deblobbing script (that of the Linux-libre project?).

lembas
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Just out of morbid curiosity, does this also cover Linux?

Magic Banana

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The freest you can get with Gentoo is with the "deblob" keyword in the USE
variable and ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FSF-APPROVED @FSF-APPROVED-OTHER". All that
can be defined in /etc/make.conf. That is not perfect though: programs that
raise subtle issues, such as those listed at
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines
, would probably be installed unaltered despite those settings.

orthinac
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Interesting discussion, thanks for the input :-)

orthinac
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I'll have to look into hurd Kernel Lol

MeNoMore
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Did you find your problem yet?

MeNoMore
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Did you find your problem yet?

orthinac
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nope, I'm going to try on different hardware. I have a little asus netbook, will try that.

strypey
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Steve, the folks in this forum are really helpful, but it helps to know exactly what hardware we are trying to help you with. If you click on my username, you will see I have put into my profile the full specs of each PC I am running GNU/Linux on, including lspci output. I recommend all forum users do the same.

As you probably know, GNU/Linux issues can be very hardware specific, and because Trisquel and other FSF-endorsed distros don't use any of the proprietary drivers/ firmware ("binary blobs") in the standard Linux kernel (they use linux-libre instead), hardware that works fine out-of-the-box with Ubuntu may have issues with Trisquel.

MeNoMore
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The thing is, if we know the exact origin of the problem we can try to fix it, or suggest ways to better the Laptop so that it can overcome its issues.

But all I know it: Something is wrong.

MeNoMore
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The thing is, if we know the exact origin of the problem we can try to fix
it, or suggest ways to better the Laptop so that it can overcome its issues.

But all I know it: Something is wrong.

strypey
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Steve, if you click on my username, you will see I have put into my profile
the full specs of each PC I am running GNU/Linux on, including lspci output.
The folks in this forum are really helpful, but it helps to know exactly what
hardware we are trying to help you with. As you probably know, GNU/Linux
issues can be very hardware specific, and because Trisquel and other
FSF-endorsed distros don't use any of the proprietary drivers/ firmware
("binary blobs") in the standard Linux kernel (they use linux-libre instead),
hardware that works fine out-of-the-box with Ubuntu may have issues with
Trisquel.

orthinac
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nope, I'm going to try on different hardware. I have a little asus netbook,
will try that.

orthinac
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screen flickering sdb drive cache data failed errors system hangs forcing me
to reboot AAAAGH!
Please help,

thanks,
Steve

MeNoMore
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Joined: 10/05/2015

Did you find your problem yet?

MeNoMore
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Joined: 10/05/2015

Did you find your problem yet?

orthinac
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Joined: 01/16/2016

I'll have to look into hurd Kernel Lol

orthinac
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Joined: 01/16/2016

I have only dba

Magic Banana

I am a member!

I am a translator!

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Joined: 07/24/2010

Are you certain the hardware (in particular the hard drive) is not defective?

orthinac
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Joined: 01/16/2016

ok now im thinking I have more than one issue , sigh ,
thanks for the detailed response I'll do some more digging!

Regards,
Steve

MeNoMore
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Joined: 10/05/2015

Perhaps, if you are booting from a USB drive, format the drive, put Trisquel
on it and boot from it again?

I doubt a fresh installation will leave you with problems, such as you are
having.

Kind regards, and welcome to Trisquel/gnuLinux.
We are here for support, ask anytime!

-- Victoria Diamond

orthinac
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Joined: 01/16/2016

trying kali-linux-2.0-amd64.iso just to test the hardware I had ubuntu 14.04
on my laptop before and only had a minor issue with the nvidia display driver
so I think the issue with trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso is not hardware related.
Maybe I should give gentoo a go? at least I will have the source then. I
wonder if gentoo is 100% free software too, I just thought that I would try
the Richard Stallman approch, I heard(no pun intended) he has trisquel on his
laptop :-)

orthinac
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Joined: 01/16/2016

Interesting discussion, thanks for the input :-)