The FSF's statement on Windows 10

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hack and hack
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Interesting, really. I just watched a video introduction.
Provided The activities menu is replaced by a classic menu (at least the shape of it is more familiar),
it looks really good and practical. And since it's harder to customize/break, it's even better. Not for my personal use (because I like i3wm and the emphasis on keyboard vs mouse), but I definitely want to try it :)
I suppose it's not Trisquel's default because it wasn't yet mature enough at that time. I think I've read about accessibility or something.

About that desktop bar bug, it was on Trisquel 7, I'm pretty sure. I made the bar disappear if I remember well (can't find my post about it here), and when I started it again, if I had several apps opened, they wouldn't be displayed on top of each other in the bar anymore, like it does in the default install. Also, I had to restart it manually after each boot.
But I never managed to make the same issue happen on the LiveCD for example, so it seems it's an isolated case.

Thanks for the Gnome3 info. It seems like an outstanding free software ambassador.

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> Provided The activities menu is replaced by a classic menu

Incidentally, GNOME Classic does that. :) GNOME Classic being a small collection of extensions for GNOME Shell to make the experience more traditional.

> I suppose it's not Trisquel's default because it wasn't yet mature enough at that time.

Actually, it was historically because it required hardware acceleration to work (which AMD GPUs don't have with Linux-libre). It's now possible to run GNOME Shell in software, so Trisquel could adopt it now without worrying as much about that; the only problem remaining is that the rendering is a bit of a load on the CPU if there's no 3-D available. But GNOME Flashback continued to be the default for Trisquel 7 for some reason I can't quite remember, but I want to say that conservatism was a huge part of it, or maybe the aforementioned CPU slowdown.

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Here is the extension for the applications menu: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/

And the one for the places menu: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/8/places-status-indicator/

hack and hack
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Thanks!

hack and hack
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I see. Gnome3 classic is really the most suited because activities can still be accessed from the classic menu (1 more click, but it becomes a secondary/last resort tool, so it's fine). Sure there is also Mate/Cinammon, supposed to be lightweight/oldschool/more flexible, but if they're not as solid as gnome3, these are not the ideal choices for first time users.

Ideally a lightweight Gnome3 Classic (while still retaining most of the non-3D related good looks) would be the best as a secondary choice.
If there's a simple way to turn it off (without completely ruining the good looks), that could work as well.

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I just wanted to add that the apparent limited flexibility ("apparent" because of the extensions and because a lot can be configured through dconf) does not mean using GNOME Shell is inefficient. See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet for useful features, in particular for the list of keybindings at the end of the page.

hack and hack
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that's even better.
I really want to try it.

Btw, speaking of useability:
my printer used to not work properly either on windows or mac. On my Trisquel Netinstall, I just plugged it in with not much hope, and not only it printed, but it printed without the previous issues!

So that was cool :)

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