IceDove replaced Thunderbird.
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A user reported this issue on the IRC channel several days ago, then
mailed it to RMS (who reminded us of it at least on
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2014-10/msg00007.html).
Known obvious freedom issues open for 1.5+ years after the developer
decided that they need to be fixed probably occur in all distros. FSF
sites do contain mistakes like recommendations of nonfree software (or
hardware that requires nonfree software). Both can be quickly corrected
if people report the problem and propose a solution. The Trisquel issue
does not link to a patch that would e.g. add Icedove with the free addon
list.
I note that RMS suggested to simply rename Thunderbird to Icedove, not to remove it altogether...
Yeah, Trisquel should be patching Ubuntu's Thunderbird appropriately and renaming the package to e.g. icedove, and the thunderbird package should become a transitional package for the new package. Suddenly panicking and removing Thunderbird entirely was a bad decision, I think.
I note that the FSF's Email Self-Defense page only provides instructions for Thunderbird, and in general Thunderbird is a lot easier to set up than most email clients. Not having Thunderbird or a variant is problematic for new users.
> And you're honestly saying that Thunderbird was in Trisquel "by mistake" for all that time, and the mistake was only realized when RMS sent an email about it?
I have to agree, I even made a forum post asking why we weren't using icedove well over a year ago, and got exactly one response ("I don't know"). This wasn't a mistake, it's been common knowledge.
christian wrote:
>> And you're honestly saying that Thunderbird was in Trisquel "by
> mistake" for all that time, and the mistake was only realized when
> RMS sent an email about it?
>
> I have to agree, I even made a forum post asking why we weren't
> using icedove well over a year ago, and got exactly one response ("I
> don't know"). This wasn't a mistake, it's been common knowledge.
Bug #6456: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/6456
Andrew.
"This wasn't a mistake, it's been common knowledge."
Knowledge of a mistake doesn't mean that it didn't originate as a mistake. It did take a long time to get corrected, yes, and many people knew of this being an example of non-free software existing in Trisquel. It's still a mistake though because non-free software doesn't belong in Trisquel. Whether you want to call the inclusion a mistake or an error or whatever the outcome is still the same.
So you basically want to say that it took two years to remove a package in order to fix a bug with highest priority (which the existence of nonfree software in trisquel in fact is)?
Sorry, but it gets harder and harder for me to take trisquel seriously
Are there any instruction for upgrade and removing thunderbird for icedove on trisquel 6?
Thanks you.
For those on Trisquel 6:
Install Icedove with the instructions provided in http://mozilla.debian.net/ (The instructions for Squeeze works (above version 3 obviously since that's present in Debian's main repos and not Trisquel's), I haven't tried the one for Jessie). It doesn't get you the newest version, though.
Please make sure you read the instructions for Icedove rather than Iceweasel.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/isp-database
just found this in the internet.
does that also count for icedove?
Icedove (the one I installed according to the link I provided above, and any other way I have tried thus far) has certainly got it.
So, no solution yet? Can we not add a version of Icedove to the Trisquel 6.01 repos? Really? 6.01 is supported until 2017.
I asked quidam on irc and his answer was that he planned on doing it but there were some difficulties, and that it was a low priority item for him.
You can take it from Debian's Mozilla repos http://mozilla.debian.net/ (The one for Squeeze (oldstable), Icedove version ESR works prefectly - not sure about the one for Wheezy.
I seem to recall there being an issue installing Lightning for this version of Icedove. Does anyone have experience with this?
Thunderbird won't install from Add/Remove Applications, so I tried sudo apt-get install thunderbird, whereupon I was informed that IceDove had replaced Thunderbird and the installation of IceDove proceeded forthwith without incident.
Now I'm hunting for the Profiles location so I can start importing my old profiles from the hard drive that housed debian before that computer died.
IceDove works on linux nearly exactly the way Thunderbird works on *indows, so I can keep two IceDoves running in parallel on these two OS's (on different computers) and transfer profiles w/o hassles if one gets hosed. I had to do that once when an antivirus program made the Thunderbird Inbox on the *indows PC vanish, and it went fine ... in the end, I restored the T-bird Inbox perfectly.
In the home user folder, there's a .thunderbird (or .icedove) folder. Copy that to your Trisquel home and (if needed) rename to .icedove
I am a translator!
yes. copy the folder to /home
and yes. you need to rename it .icedove
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