IME on home laptops

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amtrakuk
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Hi there.

I know IME is baked into nearly all new business class laptops with a modern Intel CPU but how about older laptops that are designed for home use? I have used an Advent 6552 "lubable" 17" laptop with a Intel Pentium Dual-Core T3400 CPU. I cant see anything about it on the Intel CPU website?

Thanks

jxself
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It probably does.

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https://canoeboot.org/faq.html#intelme says "the ME is present on all Intel desktop, mobile (laptop), and server systems since mid 2006" and the T3400 processor was launched in 2008.

amtrakuk
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Thats a shame although the 17" is heavy its a nice laptop.

openmind
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This is confusing: Wikipedia clearly says: "The Intel Management Engine (ME), also known as the Intel Manageability Engine, is an autonomous subsystem that has been incorporated in virtually all of Intel's processor chipsets since 2008."

jxself
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Since this was also released in 2008, it appears that the management engine's introduction - whether concurrently or earlier in 2006 - doesn't affect the outcome for this particular case.

openmind
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Thanks for the clearance.

libreleah
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You can run me_cleaner on any machine with ME version up to ME version 16. See:

https://github.com/XutaxKamay/me_cleaner/

I should note that this is a fork of the original me_cleaner:

https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner

The fork adds support for up to ME16; the original currently only supports up to ME11. ME11 is basically any 7th gen intel; some 8th gen intel may also run ME11, depending on the PCH.

Anyway, me_cleaner doesn't outright remove the ME but removes the ME's kernel, network drivers and applications such as AMT, leaving only a rump of init code (the BUP/bringup module and ROMP).

Not perfect by any means, but you might give it a shot. External flashing probably required; take two dumps of your flash and verify that the checksums match. Then run me_cleaner on a copy of the dump and flash it back. It should work on most machines, whether they run coreboot or not. A flashing guide is here:

https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/spi.html

The guide pertains to Canoeboot installation, but it contains generic instructions for how to generally read and write the contents of flash.

You do this at your own risk, but I hope this helps!

Urbancowboy
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What gen of motherboard is ME 16 ? The OG ME cleaner works well. I got it working on a family members laptop with no issues.

Psion
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Joined: 12/29/2023

Interesting I didn't know a fork existed. I assumed it must though.

But I had no proof.

And yes, intel me is only dangerous with the network drivers.

So potentially, it is the best option for someone like me.

EDIT! This one is newer:

https://github.com/mrsensey/me_cleaner

Not sure if it will be more updated in future though.