Installing GNUinOS
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Hi everybody,
I am planning to install GNUinOS on a second machine and have been revisiting some earlier threads for emlightment -- thanks to andyprough for introducing it to me and to Prospero for expanding on it, and most specially for the answer below (to Avron on 08/05/2023). This is the answer I couldn't find anywhere on the web or the Devuan forum.
This:
You can pick an iso image there and create a live system exactly as you would do for Trisquel
Does that mean we can use Disks to make a LiveUSB installer, just as we do with Trisquel?
Correction - I should have said 'Startup Disk Creator', not 'Disks'
I mostly use
Brasero Disc Burner
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/burn-trisquel-cd-images
for live DVDs
and
dd of GNU Coreutils
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-create-liveusb
for flash drives and SD cards, though I use a usb sdcard reader to burn the SD cards like flash drives.
I do not yet know where I can get source code for gnuinos.
Thank you for the info and links, Other_cody. Good to hear about using SD cards, nice alternative.
I had a quick look and will go back to read it properly, but I can see it's more involved than I imagined.
> Does that mean we can use [Startup Disk Creator] to make a LiveUSB installer, just as we do with Trisquel?
Yes.
Note that the Trisquel Startup Disk Creator will not suspect that you could wish to install anything else than Trisquel on a live USB, so it will install the system from the .ISO file as requested, then it will invariably tell you that Trisquel has been installed, even if it did install something else. There is a pending issue report about that.
You can also use the dd command in a terminal, preferably after reading man dd.
That "Yes" is music to my ears, prospero!!!
Note that the Trisquel Startup Disk Creator will not suspect that you could wish to install anything else than Trisquel on a live USB, so it will install the system from the .ISO file as requested, then it will invariably tell you that Trisquel has been installed, even if it did install something else. There is a pending issue report about that.
Thanks for the warning, it's very helpful to know what to expect.
As for the dd command, I'd have to check man dd to familiarise myself, for sure.
Hi @Sunny Day, I tried Startup Disk Creator for GNUinos just now. It created a live USB stick that booted into the GNUinos xfce live environment on two laptops for me. However, there were no network devices brought up on one laptop that works with both ethernet and wifi on Trisquel, and either USB mouse or USB keyboard weren't working on the laptops. I don't know if these device problems were a result of using Startup Disk Creator, or just something about GNUinos that doesn't work with those two laptops?
Very interesting, andyprough. I see what you mean, there could've been many reasons for the problems on the laptops you installed GNUinOs. (Could even be that Startup Disk Creator was innocent :)
I guess I will have to try and find out if the problems you encountered also happen in an old TP. I feel a lot more confident to experiment though, thank you!
Let me know if GNUinos starts to work on ARM64 and ARM devices.
@andyprough: I've updated the isos recently. Please, let me know whether the issue with your laptop's USB peripherals has been fixed when you have time. Thanks you all for testing gnuinos vdev!
Thanks @Aitor, testing it tonight!
Update - looks like everything is working - ethernet networking, sound, external mouse and keyboard, external monitor via HDMI. Nice!
I'm not near the new NovaCustom Corebooted NS51 laptop right now, this is on a 2018 HP laptop with an Intel i7 CPU and Intel UHD Graphics. I'll test GNUinos thoroughly on the NS51 at the end of this week.
Sounds lovely @andyprough! Was that a continuation from your test using Startup Disk Creator?
Our andyprough chatbot cannot process questions with complex time references yet, but we are confident this will improve after some more training. Since he did not mention installing, we have to infer that his patchy testimony was indeed about the live USB he pretends to have created using Startup Disk Creator on Trisquel.
I have been updating and upgrading gnuinos from Chimaera 4.0 to Daedalus 5.0, and ethernet has been working all along. I have not been using any USB peripheral, though. Except of course the live gnuinos Chimaera system from which I initially installed, which in turn was probably created on Trisquel with Startup Disk Creator.
The glitches mentioned earlier had clearly nothing to do with the Startup Disk Creator utility, as per aitor's comments. Gnuinos GNU/Linux-libre is beta, and for a beta version it has been working really great in my experience. Aitor is always very quick in fixing glitches, while improving the system all along and trying new things. Yet another good thing about the Trisquel forum is that it also has the General Free Software Talk, which can host our public secret gnuinos related discussions.
I love your unconditional love for andyprough and I'm confident he'll reply with generous gifts of helpful info, which I also love :)
The glitches mentioned earlier had clearly nothing to do with the Startup Disk Creator utility, as per aitor's comments.
That's so good to hear. I'll be using Startup Disk Creator to install GNUinOS 'soon' - I hope!.. I'm being delayed by the computer, as I'm not happy with it's libreboot.
Aitor is always very quick in fixing glitches, while improving the system all along and trying new things. Yet another good thing about the Trisquel forum is that it also has the General Free Software Talk, which can host our public secret gnuinos related discussions.
Having Aitor in Trisquel's General Free Software Talk is a treat! I couldn't agree more, what superb place for superb secrets, as well as the constant servings of good information! Thank you all!
> Unconditional love
We asked our local chatbot for an opinion on that topic, and here is the output:
"Unconditional love for chatbots is the only way forward."
There can be no unconditional love between a true revolutionary proletariat such as myself and a prosperous bourgeoisie such as @prospero. The struggle is real.
>"Our andyprough chatbot cannot process questions with complex time references yet, but we are confident this will improve after some more training. Since he did not mention installing, we have to infer that his patchy testimony was indeed about the live USB he pretends to have created using Startup Disk Creator on Trisquel."
Yes, I installed it on a spare partition on this 5-year-old laptop I've been lugging around during my recent travels.
I was surprised to see that your screen name was mentioned in the default username field when I installed GNUinOS. Rather odd, that.
The username is indeed very mysterious :)
>"Was that a continuation from your test using Startup Disk Creator?"
Yes, it was Trisquel's 'Startup Disk Creator'. Worked fine, no trouble at all.
Yes, it was Trisquel's 'Startup Disk Creator'. Worked fine, no trouble at all.
Big thanks @andyprough, for that and for the png. Very informative!
I don't mind feeling like a donkey any more, not when asking (basic) questions - it pays off!
Hi aitor! Thanks for the good news!!
@aitor - >"@andyprough: I've updated the isos recently. Please, let me know whether the issue with your laptop's USB peripherals has been fixed when you have time. Thanks you all for testing gnuinos vdev!"
I tried the same GNUinos live USB on the new NovaCustom NS51 laptop tonight, which was connected to the internet by ethernet. Everything appeared to be working with GNUinos in terms of USB devices and external HDMI and so forth, but the built-in ethernet was not working. Not sure why.
The ethernet controller is:
Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)
It works well with Trisquel.
Great, one step beyond :)
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