installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
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Possibly I should post this on troll lounge because I think I am actually banned posting on anywhere but troll lounge, so if it is something wrong, please tell me it and move this post to troll lounge. I thought I should post this on troll lounge but since this was a serious question, I decided to post this here.
Recently, I got two x60s and a new WD green SSD. I have been trying to install Trisquel on this x60s. Firstly I tried to download Trisquel 8 directly from the FSF server to Macbook 4.1 with Ubuntu 18.04 but the download was very slow (It took 2 or 3 hours) then failed 2,3 times (at just before download was supposed to finish, the rest were 10-20 mb), so I tried it with qbittorrent. It worked. And very fast (about 10 minitus).
Then I burned the iso image on an USB stick in accordance with the instruction page of Trisquel. I was going to check MD5 or SHA256 or GPG (I don't know well about those though) in the instruction page (Thank you for downloading Trisquel...), there are those three links. I tried to open those pages but I got the error page (error 404) for every link [photo].
There are several strange phenomena but the important question is that freezing is getting more frequently. At while the first installation, it did not freeze so I was able to install it on SSD. But after the installation, on the login page (at the center of the page, there are a text box and Trisquel logo [photo2]) I entered the password but the password was denied. It could be my mistake, I want not to believe so, though. It has happened with Proton mail, too. I had written the password on a piece of paper and taken a photo.
So I downloaded Trisquel mini in the same way to install it on the SSD.
I booted it from USB and chose "Try Trusquel without installing", every time anyway usually desktop appeared, but after several tens seconds, it freezed, then finally it started to freeze after a few seconds every time. Then I tried to reinstall Trisquel 8 (not mini) again from the "Try Trisquel without installing" but the same phenomenon (freezing immediately) started to happen with it too. So I cannot reinstall it on SSD neither.
So anyway I cannot install it on SSD.
I tried Memtest and it seemed that there was no problem.
If possible, I would like to use Trisquel on this x60s. If you can guess the cause of those troubles, would you mind telling me a solution to it? Thank you.
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> At while the first installation, it did not freeze so I was able to
> install it on SSD. But after the installation, on the login page (at
> the center of the page, there are a text box and Trisquel logo
> [photo2]) I entered the password but the password was denied.
I just searched for "cryptsetup fails bad password or options" and it
seems that the most common issue is that the user unknowingly has CapsLk
on. However, I see one case where the presence of a backslash in the
password might have been the cause.[1] If so, the problem may be
inconsistent character encoding, in which case non-ascii characters
could be a problem as well. You could confirm this by testing with a
password using only ascii alphanumeric characters.
How important is full disk encryption to you? (Are you worried about
physical theft of this machine?) If it doesn't matter, the simplest
thing might be to deselect LVM in the installer and avoid this issue
entirely.
> So I downloaded Trisquel mini in the same way to install it on the
> SSD. I booted it from USB and chose "Try Trusquel without
> installing", every time anyway usually desktop appeared, but after
> several tens seconds, it freezed, then finally it started to freeze
> after a few seconds every time. Then I tried to reinstall Trisquel 8
> (not mini) again from the "Try Trisquel without installing" but the
> same phenomenon (freezing immediately) started to happen with it too.
> So I cannot reinstall it on SSD neither.
So the freezing happens sooner every time? It's possible that the laptop
is overheating. What happens if you give the laptop some time to cool
down before trying again? Does the freezing take longer? When I
installed Trisquel 7 on my X60, I had the exact same issue with freezing
before I could make it through the installation process, and found that
the freezing always occurred when the laptop was hot. Cleaning the
fan[2] couldn't hurt.
Thank you. probably you are right. I changed the password using only alphanumeric characters and it is not denied now. And yes it was very hot. I was surprised how hot it was. Now it doesn't freeze. I was thinking that someone was preventing me from installing it but it might have been my paranoia. Do you always check that MD5 or SHA256 or GPG every time you download something? When I downloaded Tails, its number of MD5 or SHA256 was different. But I didn't know what I should do so I kept using the iso image. I think there was no problem. Anyway Ubuntu and Tails or other distros took around 15-20 minitus to boot, but Trisquel boots within one minute so it is very good. The fun was very clean somehow.
You have not been banned and that thread definitely belongs to "Trisquel users".
Either your internet connection or the site must have failed when you tried to access the checksums. They are all here: http://cdimage.trisquel.info/trisquel-images/
It is worth verifying them. It is easy on GNU/Linux (where 'md5sum' and the 'sha*sum' commands are usually installed by default) and allows to ensure that the ISO you downloaded is OK. It is indeed possible that the checksums do not match but you do not face any issue. An unreliable network connection may switch a few bits but, for instance, they may be in a wallpaper (some pixels would have different colors). But it can be in software too: why take the risk if tens of minutes are all you need to download again, maybe from another source (the ISO may have actually been maliciously modified too!)?
Thank you. But please don't comfort me. You simply lost me in Trisquel users and General Free Software Talk. Less lots trackers is not bad. Very comfortable. They also would be released from tracking except some devices. I might have to use Windows again someday though.
Hopefully you don't have to return to "use" Windows. I do appreciate your progress in trying to install a free/libre operating system distribution by yourself. You have also shown the willingness to study, which is invaluable.
That you purchased X60s to install Trisquel is an excellent starting point. So keep studying and don't give up. Now you can try to improve your hardware DIY capability using the X60s machine. Buy a set of nice tools (mainly screwdrivers) and search for the Hardware Maintenance Manual for your machine. Practice until you can skillfully disassemble and re-assemble it and replace damaged parts.
My community friends and I have been preparing some beginner's documents. We hope you were still using GNU/Linux when we finish them in the near future.
> My community friends and I have been preparing some beginner's documents.
I hope you'll share them here when they're ready.
It took almost two years since I thought "What is GNU/Linux.".
I got to know Thinkpads have many fans and parts and data. I am going to keep using GNU/Linux but this is really my weak subject. When I was a kid, there was a popular toy which name was Mini 4WD. It was a car toy and we had to assemble it from a kit. The toy just runs straight with no controller. I think it was quite simple structure but my Mini 4WD did not run. The sadness was engraved in my memory. Looking back, it was RR or midship, not 4WD. Also I have written Basic when I was a kid. There was a famous FC game which name was Dragon Quest (maybe it was called Dragon Worrier abroad) and the chief developer Yuji Horii wrote a book of Basic. I entered commands on the black screen of PC-8800 or something according to his instruction like 10... 20... you can add other order later between 10 and 20... oh I see... bla bla bla but nothing happened. I have not much conviction for this kind of stuff. Maybe I have not much tolerance to this kind of frustration. But thank you. I will try.
I already have the feeling that you are trying to do most of the things by yourself, which is great.
But don't give up. If you fail 10 times, try 11th time, with the hope of succeeding, which is helping a lot.
Using guides are good, but sometimes outdated, or some critical parts aren't explained well, if you have 2 x60s, if you have the time to spend, try using one as your testing device, and try whatever test you can imaging, if you follow a guide, try to change some steps in that guide which feels convenient.
for example,
Guide: run this command with this parameters
You: run this command with other parameters and see what is happening, ah I crashed it, so I start over with some other parameters, ...
Yes I think I should at least install Libreboot then see some things so I have been trying to install on the x60s but it is difficult. Or rather, maybe it is not difficult, as you say,
>Using guides are good, but sometimes outdated, or some critical parts aren't explained well,
This is only my feelings but it seems that I cannot think nothing but they have no intention to share the method straight. It seems that "education" might be the pretext, but it causes the doubt that that "There might be some inconvenience to teach or share the information". Isn't it natural?
Edit: Seemed off-topic, I move the rest of writing to troll lounge.
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