Introduction and first question

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Pawel Loba
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Good day all,
I am glad to see some accessibility improvements in Trisquel 8.
This is important since I am a blind computer user working with speech &
Braille display.
Unfortunately, Trisquel 8's installation doesn't support Braille displays
during this process automatically that's why I would like to see how it is
with Trisquel 9.
Would you let me know where/how to get the candidate release of the iso
image of Trisquel 9, please.
I'd like to test this from the accessibility point of view and share my
findings before its final release.
Thanks,
Pawel

Connochaetes

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Cool, thanks for testing.

You can get the AMD64 version from end of March 2020:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/trisquel_9.0_amd64.iso

Or the i686 version from January 2020:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/20200117/trisquel_9.0_i686.iso

For other stuff like checksums or dysfunctional torrents, navigate the directories or use loldier's wget recipe.

You may want to get in touch with Dave_Hunt, read his post here (in case anchors don't work for you, his post starts with "I decided to give").

Connochaetes

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Also, if you have time for this later, I'd appreciate any opinions you (or Dave, or others) may have about Jami, Jitsi, Wire etc. (I hope those are free enough to be discussed) in terms of accessibility, perhaps more appropriately in the other forum. I have to use such software for work, and it would be nice to be able to accomodate more customers. Thanks!

Pawel Loba
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Hi,
To make it clear, I am not a programmer. I am a hobbiest who always
appreciate any opportunity to learn. I am going to ask a
lot of questions. :)

I got the Trisquel 9's iso image and created the installation USB
stick & started my installation. Unfortunately, there is no
support for a Braille display immplemented into the installation
procedure.
In graphical mode, ORCA starts up very nicely after pressing the
alt+supper+S but it doesn't activate any attached USB-based Braille
display. I went to the Mate terminal and wanted to fireup BRLTTY manually
and I was informed by the system that BRLTTY package is not present & I
can install it, so I did and got my Braille display working. BRLTTY
package is necessary to be present and activated from the accessibility
point of view.

There was no way for me to go through the text installation
which I personally prefer since there is no Braille nor speech available
in this mode, as far as I know.

I'd like to costumize the iso image to work better for a blind user. My
question to you is then, are these instructions relevant to Trisquel 9
release:

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/customizing-trisquel-iso

Thanks for your assistance,
Pawel
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, name at domain wrote:

> Cool, thanks for testing.
>
> You can get the AMD64 version from end of March 2020:
> http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/trisquel_9.0_amd64.iso
>
> Or the i686 version from January 2020:
> http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/20200117/trisquel_9.0_i686.iso
>
> For other stuff like checksums or dysfunctional torrents, navigate the
> directories or use loldier's wget recipe.
>
> You may want to get in touch with Dave_Hunt, read his post here (in case
> anchors don't work for you, his post starts with "I decided to give").

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> To make it clear, I am not a programmer.

Nor am I, to make it clear. Not even a hobbyist and not involved with Trisquel other than using it, and I cannot answer your question on customization. I just thought maybe you've used video conferencing software (without actively using the video, of course) and can say which ones work or don't work for you, sorry for derailing the thread.
I hope your suggestions will be implemented in "official" install media.

After I wrote that maybe you'd like to get in touch with Dave_Hunt, I thought that perhaps you would have a hard time trying to do so if are using the website forum instead of the mailing lists, which as far as I understand are largely copies of each other, except that the mailing lists will not reflect any subsequent edits done through the website forum. Anyway, his e-mail address is here (and likewise, yours is here). I hope I didn't waste your time.

Dave_Hunt

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Regarding voice/video conferencing options: I have no real-world experience with jami/ring, except for setting up the client, which, as I recall, had some accessibility with the Orca screen reader, though wasn't perfect. I often use the non-free Zoom conferences with fine accessibility to the client in Ubuntu and commercial oses. The free voip conferencing option called himawari had worked fine when it was last accessible.Himawari is pure web rtc. there's a non-free (as in freedom) web rtc option called talky.io that is mostly accessible. Yesterday, I began playing with jitsimeet on https://meet.mayfirst.org In Firefox, using the latest orca (3.36.3), it is somewhat accessible. I can start and join meetings. Also, I can read incoming chat messages, but only if I manually review the screen. There is no audible indication that a message has arrived, nor is the text of said message automatically spoken. The indications that speaker has raised hand, enter the room, left the room, are spoken. Finally, many of the meeting controls are announced as "clickable", with the role of "section", when exploring with orca. Using orca's mouse click emulation doesn't appear to active these controls. Once a keyboard shortcut, such as 'i', to enter the chat area, is pressed, the associated control/text area is readable. My friends and I can use jitsimeet, but, we are very-experienced screen reader users.

HTH,

Dave H.