Linux Voice is asking the community where should 50% of their profits go

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lammi87

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They are asking for suggestions on their website:

http://www.linuxvoice.com/giving-profits-back-where-and-how/

"Over the first 12 months of the magazine, we’ll give coverage to communities, projects, charities and events suggested by you, Linux Voice readers. Then, at the end of the year, readers will be able to vote on which groups we support, and where the 50% of our first-year profits go to."

FSF and EFF seem to be the most popular choises among the comments right now. If we suggest Trisquel enough times now we might be able to vote for it when the time comes.

axgb
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What would Trisquel do with all that money? I would say EFF is best, followed by FSF.

jxself
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"I would say EFF is best, followed by FSF."

Considering the nature of the magazine, that order seems backward.

lammi87

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Linux Voice is planning on having their readers vote on who receives 50% of their profits several times a year. This means that when there is an article on LV about Trisquel, for example, it has a good chance to get some profits from them.

The voting system is still under constraction so we don't know how often the readers can vote per year, how many candidates can win and will there be separate categories (like distros, applications, LUGs and small projects which have just started) of which each one or more candidates can win and get the profits.

At the moment, FSF, EFF and GIMP seem to be very strong candidates.

t3g
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Maybe some can be thrown to the LibreOffice team to modernize that god awful interface.

Fernando_Negro
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The EFF is a /fake/ organization, mounted by the establishment, in order to control the critiques that are made to the ongoing loss of our (electronic) civil liberties.

Take a look at who's funding them: https://www.eff.org/about (Check its "Annual Reports".)

It's foundations like the "former" nazi George Soros' "Open Society Institute".

And, try to look, for example, for information relating to the P*OMIS software (R instead of the *) that is surveilling us all. You will hardly find any information about it...

(It's the same story as with another organization, called EPIC...)

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That's interesting. I've come across this idea before. I've heard these organisations and indivduals refered to as "gatekeepers".

Fernando_Negro
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Yes, that's one of the terms. Usually, more used for the fake (controlled) alternative media. (https://web.archive.org/web/20110721004258/http://www.questionsquestions.net/gatekeepers.html)

One other term, is "controlled oposition". And, it's a very much used stratagem, already publicly admitted, a long time ago, by another well-known puppet of this same interests.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
--- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

I guess this type of organizations, of the sort of EFF and EPIC, are, due to its nature, somewhere in between this two types of refered groups, combinig elements of both.

dudeski

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Okay, so you don't trust the EFF because they get money from shady places.
But by that standard, don't think you should trust the FSF either, 'cause they get money from Google, Oracle and IBM (http://www.fsf.org/patrons), and I think we all know who these companies are in bed with, so why would you consider the FSF any more trustworthy? I doubt Google is doing it for the free t-shirts.
Let's be honest, that Stallman character running around now might just be a lookalike planted and controlled by the establishment. =o

Fernando_Negro
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I was expecting someone to bring that up, in here, again... (https://trisquel.info/en/forum/ot-mobile-telephony-survey#comment-44935)

The Free Software Foundation is financed by big corporations because they, too, use Free Software. And are, therefore - by the logic on which Free Software is developed - morally obliged to contribute something back to the community - or, otherwise, they would be left with a (very) bad public image (which could have a significant effect on their profits).

While, organizations like EFF and EPIC are financed by foundations run by people who make it appear as if they are giving their money out of pure altruism, just because of how nice people they are, and worried about our society they are - while, everyone who is well informed about them knows that, they are not nice people, at all, and have hidden agendas, that they don't want the public to know about, among which is the intention to take away everyone's civil liberties (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-true-story-of-the-bilderberg-group-and-what-they-may-be-planning-now/13808 + http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589). And, these are foundations known for, among other things, trying to instigate people to overthrow democratically elected governments, not under the control of Western interests.

And, speaking of Stallman...

One other stratagem that this same big economic interests have, besides creating fake movements and organizations, in order to mislead people, is to infiltrate and sabotage real and legitimate ones.

So... Let me take the opportunity to seriously warn you (all) that: you can be sure that the Free Software Movement has people inside of it, who are waiting for Stallman, and others, to no longer be among us, in order to take their place and start misrepresenting and sabotaging the Free Software Movement, itself (in the same way that some fake Free Software promoting groups and companies, like Canonical, are already doing - https://trisquel.info/en/forum/ubuntu-1310-second-step-spy-its-users#comment-41918).

dudeski

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Boy, someone sure is a bit paranoid.. Might wanna up your daily dose of tap water. I hear they put lithium in it now in addition to the flouride. =x

jxself
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The FSF has multiple levels of defenses in place to avoid takeovers and people turning the organization evil.

Fernando_Negro
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I'm very glad to read that, jxself. :)

Thank you very much for that information. :)

muhammed
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[Companies like Google, Oracle, IBM, are] "morally obliged to contribute something back to the [free software] community - or, otherwise, they would be left with a (very) bad public image (which could have a significant effect on their profits)." - Fernando

I don't think enough people think about free software, to hurt those companies' income. I don't think that they feel pressure to contribute to this social cause for the reason that you said.

Fernando_Negro
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I think that the number of people who use, and value, Free Software is enough for it to be a bad idea not to worry about their public image before such people - and, not only those. Since, other people would notice such indecency and might start questioning such corporations' values.

Not only that, but, these corporations must always try to create a good impression among the public, with some philanthropic actions and such, in order to try to supplant and "counter-balance" the bad public image, that they have, that comes from their known "misdeeds".

Also, such financing might be a way to try to dissuade the FSF from saying bad things about them (or to try to damage the public image of the latter), by trying to make it look indecent, from the part of the FSF, to be saying bad things about the entities that fund it.

(I don't know...)

The one thing I am sure is that such corporations don't fund the FSF because they value software (or any other kind of) Freedom.

t3g
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If you are that paranoid, you might as well not trust Python either since they have backing from Canonical, Google and Microsoft: http://www.python.org/psf/#psf-sponsor-members

Of course the Linux Foundation, which governs the Linux kernel that ALL of you use, has its fair share of corporations: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members

Andresm

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i am getting subscription as a christmas present. linux format magazine introduced me to trisquel.
at least they use the freesoftware term.

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And now they've hit their target:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice/