Novena open laptop project
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Looks nice. I'd love to have one.
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That is awesome! Thanks for sharing that.
Why make this pureOS? Why don't they use Trisquel? Is it because they want to descend straight from Debian, not from Debian-to-Ubuntu-Trisquel?
Linking the Trisquel community with the Purism community would help us both, no?
Aside from that, has anybody actually tried this pureOS. People have talked about having another Debian-based free OS like GnuSense. Maybe pureOS is it?
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On the already discussed Purism (if we want to joke) Librem
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/librem13-fully-free-time
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Whoops! Sorry, I should have done a search here first. I searched fsf.org, gnu.org, stallman.org, and even wikipedia for purism and pureOS and found nothing. It would definitely have made sense to have checked here before posting here, duh!
I've looked through the thread you linked to and I cannot comment on any of it one way or the other. Although, it does not look like people here trust purism!
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>If they cared about freedom
They don't. They care about money. In fact they care about money so much as to willingly deceive people who are gullible enough to buy their bullshit.
>What is actually different about the Purism laptop to a Dell 'developer' laptop with Ubuntu?
none at all.
Where did the topic of Purism even come from? It has nothing to do with Novena. Novena is a project to produce a laptop with a more "open" design than most computers that is easier to modify hardware-wise. It's also being designed to minimize proprietary software dependencies, but its developers are not naïve and they know (and are quite up-front about the fact) that it's not going to be entirely functional with only libre software. It's a similar type of project to the Pyra, and I think it's probably worth supporting.
Purism, on the other hand, is a company that made huge promises of delivering a freedom-respecting laptop that it simply couldn't honor. The hardware they chose is simply impossible to liberate; it can never be any better in terms of liberty than what Think Penguin offers because it requires signed proprietary firmware from Intel, which Intel couldn't even liberate if it wanted to, in order to run. When Todd, the founder of Purism, has been told about this, he has done nothing but vaguely suggested that he was somehow going to pressure Intel to release the source code to this proprietary software when even Google wasn't able to, and had the audacity to put up a page which suggests that they have actually made progress on their impossible promise by deceptively listing "completely libre OS" as a bunch of imaginary steps that they never even took, and that don't even properly describe how Trisquel was developed.
And it's even worse than that: "PureOS" is a derivative of Trisquel that, from the sound of it, probably adds some proprietary driver to make the touchpad work better. But Purism describes their laptops as if they run Trisquel. They deceptively point out that Trisquel is FSF-endorsed and that PureOS is based on Trisquel, omitting the point that PureOS itself is not approved by the FSF. I'm subscribed to the gnu-linux-libre mailing list, and as far as I can tell, Purism hasn't even attempted to get FSF endorsement for PureOS.
Bottom line: don't support Purism, and Purism has nothing to do with Novena.
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Thank you for making that clear onpon4.
I'm still trying to figure out how I drifted from the OP's link to the Purism's website. I'm easily excited, and the Purism website definitely has the hype down pat. I should have known from the "purism button" among other things. It looks like they are trying to capture the whole Apple 'simplicity of design' concept. Since all things Apple tend to be rotten to the core, this similar look/feel should have been a clue.
Ifixit assembled one. A reversed tear-down.
https://ifixit.org/blog/7000/novena/
Kosagi Novena user guide.
http://kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Desktop_User_Guide
From the horse's mouth.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/consumer-electronics/portable-devices/novena-a-laptop-with-no-secrets
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