Outdated Packages on Trisquel Nabia
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Dear Trisquel Community,
Why do we not have specific repositories for new packages like Debian sid?
We the Trisquel Community archeologists have a very different idea of what 'outdated' means. For us, if it is not outdated, it is not stable. That is why we stick with Trisquel. As a matter of fact, many of us are already using Trisquel 11, because we still like a change, but only every other year.
You can always try the beta version and let us know how outdated it feels for your taste: https://cdbuilds.trisquel.org/aramo. If you do not feel like an archeologist yourself, what you are looking for is probably a fun hyper-contemporary rolling-release punk *bola distro. I must add that some of us are still using Trisquel 9, in case you wondered. It is supported until March 2023.
Great response, I should write it down :)
In addition to topic starter:
When migrating from Trisquel 9 to 10 (btw thanks all for your hard work and yes, I've donated this month for the whole next year at membership level) I found out that Dino was actually downgraded from 0.2 to 0.1.
Not wanting to complain needlessly, as Dino is not offered as an Appimage or Flatpak.
Thank you very much in advance.
> Dino was actually downgraded from 0.2 to 0.1.
This does not seem to be true:
https://packages.trisquel.info/search?suite=etiona&searchon=names&keywords=dino says 0.0.git20180130-1
https://packages.trisquel.info/search?suite=nabia&searchon=names&keywords=dino says 0.1.0-1build2
Maybe you decided to install 0.2 on Etiona (Trisquel 9) and forgot when you upgraded to Nabia? Aramo ships with 0.3. If you wish to use 0.3 on Nabia, this may help you:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/dino-030-does-not-detect-outgoing-and-incoming-audio#comment-167787
Please excuse me, you're right, I must have gotten the Dino 0.2 from somewhere else. But I would appreciate an update to 0.3.
You can upgrade to the beta version of Trisquel 11 and you will get version dino 0.3.
For the development version of dino, there is a repository to add: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=network:messaging:xmpp:dino&package=dino
Also, the backports repo can be added to Aramo, too:
deb https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/trisquel/ aramo-backports main
deb-src https://archive.trisquel.org/trisquel/ aramo-backports main
"Dear Trisquel Community,
Why do we not have specific repositories for new packages like Debian sid?"
Correct me if i'm wrong but Debian Sid is meant as an unstable version of Debian so that may not be a great comparison to Trisquel.
In any case there are ways to have the best of both worlds. You don't have to get the program from the Trisquel repos. For instance I get KeepassXC from their official PPA. The reason I do this is because the version Trisquel has lacks a dark mode option that was added in a later version which I really want. You can also check if a specific program is available as an App Image or Flatpak. Now people can say that there is the risk to installing non free programs this way but to that I counter with the fact that if it is available in Trisquel repos then it should be FOSS as well as I have a wonderful tool in my body called a brain in which I can conduct research to make sure what I am installing is FOSS.
I don't expect Trisquel to have the latest for versions and when I can make an older version work I will but if I can't and my options are use another distro or get my FOSS software elsewhere well i'd prefer to keep Trisquel.
> a brain in which I can conduct research
This sounds like a perilous activity. You should backup your data first.
"Dear Trisquel Community, Why do we not have specific repositories for new packages like Debian sid?"
Putting out development/unstable/released versions of Trisquel that are based on upcoming Ubuntu versions would be more work and we can barely keep up with the status quo with just the released versions as it is. If you feel like volunteering to help please feel free to do so.
Aramo (Trisquel 11) based on Ubuntu 22.04 should have newer packages. Trisquel dropped short-term support (STS) releases and there's substantial delay between releases (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisquel). A reasonable way to have an up-to-date system is to use Parabola (Arch based).
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A reasonable way to have an up-to-date system is to use Parabola (Arch based).
"up-to-date" sounds nice but what this concretly means is that, unless one is a specialized sysadmin, one is forced to use the latest version of everything and sometimes things one uses disappear or are broken and remain so for months.
I even had the case that my system won't boot following the normal update (not frequent but happened a few months ago).
I like to play with Parabola but my laptop with Parabola has Trisquel on another disk so that I am sure to have a working system. Also, there are several software I use with Trisquel that aren't available in Parabola.
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