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SuperTramp83

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Popcorn-Time reached version 0.3.6.0 "the christmas tree is up".
Remarkable new feature is a builtin VPN very easy to set so you can enjoy the streams without pigs knocking on your door even if you live in the usa* !!

give it a try! Amazing piece of software.
https://popcorntime.io/

* United Swines of Avarice

JadedCtrl
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A new version? :)
The last one I tried didn't work (The website was down), so I might try this one.
'Tis truly is a fantastic Gravmass season.

SuperTramp83

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that's because it needs some dependencies installed in order to work. I am not quite sure what dependencies are those nor did I research it - I just know that if you install xbmc (kodi now) that takes care of all the dependencies..
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rakyi
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Popcorn Time depends on the fonts-liberation package.

quantumgravity
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I don't know... it seems tempting, but i stayed away from bittorrent until now. Don't want to have a criminal record honestly...
and i don't know very much about vpn, so i'm sceptical.
There's no way to use this application safely with tor i guess?

JadedCtrl
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Popcorn Time uses a built-in VPN- combined with using purely Free Software, it'll be rather difficult to track who used it.
Even if they were able to, so many people use these services it would hardly be worth the money for companies to sue, unless they wanted to make an example of someone, but the odds of of you being the example are very slim.

quantumgravity
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Can anyone explain to me how vpn is any different from a normal https proxy (when it comes to privacy)?
I know the basic principle.... you connect to a private network in an encrypted way; then to the destination server, i guess.
But the vpn provider can log my ip, right?

BlinkingArrow

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In short, yes. If it is a paid VPN, however, the provider generally does not want to keep IP addresses. If customers find out said provider is done.

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quantumgravity said:

I don't know... it seems tempting, but i stayed away from bittorrent until now. Don't want to have a criminal record honestly...
and i don't know very much about vpn, so i'm sceptical.
There's no way to use this application safely with tor i guess?

Using Bit-torrent is not a crime, it all depends in what kind of content you are uploading or downloading.

About TOR, ONE OF THE golden rules to maintain anonymity, is not upload or download. Unless you are peer to peer and encrypted...

I use a paying VPN, TO mask my IP only, I prefer the VPN providers from Sweden, Switzerland and Germany. I don't trust the ones in THE UK and USA.
At the same time, I use VPN to access my machines remotely and encrypted.

FSF has an excellent plugging to force your a-browser to do HTTPS, instead of regular http.

I'll advise you to research and read into it. You will understand it better.

Calinou
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> “FSF has an excellent plugging to force your a-browser to do HTTPS, instead of regular http.”

You mean the EFF?

Chris

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I'm not a lawyer, but your understanding of the technology, risks, and the law is probably misguided. BitTorrent is not illegal (anywhere that I'm aware of anyway) and criminal copyright infringement is aimed at operators of commercial businesses profiting off of copyright infringement (in the US and generally speaking). You would really have to work at it to attract the attention of law enforcement (ie you would have to setup / operate a linking site, run a file sharing service, upload torrents relating to copyright content you don't have the right to distribute to a forum and actually that is probably more likely to attract civil attention I think, etc) in other words.

Short of that your only talking about a civil matter. Chances are you would call up a lawyer in a civil case and have them negotiate a settlement. Maybe at a cost of $5,000-$10,000 USD. The majority of that would be to cover legal fees and the actual settlement would probably be under $1,000 USD-but at worse probably $8,000 USD. However that's a worst case scenario as the risk of being targeted by copyright owners is extremely small. Your probably more likely to get hit by a bus than be targeted for civil copyright infringement. There simply are just so many people doing it.

For obvious reasons I won't encourage anybody to break the law- regardless of my opinion on it-one way or the other.

quantumgravity
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You are right Chris, I talked about a "criminal record" when I was actually worried about a civil lawsuit.
I can't afford getting sued and pay like 1000 or 8000 dollars at the moment and though the risks might not be that big, i still would like to avoid it.
I think it's more secure to go with classical streaming (i.e. not uploading yourself) and at least in germany it's not clearly illegal, at least if it's not obvious that the streaming provider doesn't have legitimation for uploading.

SuperTramp83

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popcorn is free software and it is fracking awesome!!
the only downside is that you are limited to the series and movies which are listed in popcorn. It would be nice if you could just add a magnet link and stream whatever you want..I for myself really enjoy older movies (seventies mainly)
Today I was thinking about this and then I remembered qbittorrent's function to download torrents in sequential order - then immediately an idea popped into my mind and I had a 2+2=4 moment..
You can open qbittorrent and search for a movie (lets say Europa by Lars von Trier, which you can't find in popcorn) - the search gives you the number of seeds - you choose the max, id est the first one and you start the download. Wait a minute or two and then click on the avi.part(or mkv.part or whatever the format is) - it'll get opened with vlc (play as it is) - and here you have it - a flawless stream of any mutimedia file you can find on the net (given the sufficient amount of seeders and download speed)..
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p.s - I want to make it clear that I am against copyright and I find it really annoying to pay 20 euros for a dvd; especially when the movie is something as stupid and worthless as, let's say, "the interview" which is the latest shit I spent my time on and regret it..
But I also think that artists must be supported, financially supported, for their effort!! So, if you stream a movie and really like it and reckon it is worth the price (the ridiculosly excessive price dvds cost nowadays) BUY THAT DVD - SUPPORT THE GOOD WORK of the moving pictures maestros!!!
cheers libres

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Actually, I think there are more downsides to sequential downloading of files over BitTorrent and using Popcorn Time.

1. Sequential downloading is bad, especially for small swarms: http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Sequential_downloading_is_bad

2. Depending on user's internet connecton, using Popcorn Time might be bad for torrent health: https://masterex.github.io/archive/2014/03/31/popcorn-time-maybe-harmful.html Plus it uses sequential downloading.

Although these issues become less relevant for healthy torrents with big swarms, they still pose important ethical implications (in the BitTorrent ethics sense).

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Thank you. Very informative. Much better than the initial spam.

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just want to make it clear that it wasn't me that downvoted your post - I hate this new stupid voting system and will never get tired repeating how dumb and useless it is!

I use words to express myself - in this case I'll say: "I don't like you!"

SuperTramp83

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very true chris. But shit happens and one can never know..
Prevention can be taken by setting up a good blocklist. That won't keep out all the copyright jerks but even if it keeps out 30% of them, it's still better then no blocklist at all.

https://www.iblocklist.com/lists.php

I merged several into one big list and use it with qbittorrent
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Chris

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Sure- bad stuff does happen. However the worst case scenario here isn't the end of the world. You would really have to mess up to have a civil matter like this be a serious impediment to your life.

If you like I can tell you how to accomplish that though you might still fail to ruin your life:

1. Do everything you can to get them to come after you (chance are you'll still fail, but lets say they do)
2. Refuse to settle (chance are they'll never actually file suit against you even after you fail to settle)
3. Destroy evidence after you've been notified (this is seen a big no-no)
4. Do everything possible to annoy the judge

After all that you might be looking at a judgment so large you can't easily recover from it. However there are still lots of people living with huge default judgments and similar. There are ways to go about coping with such judgments.

I also want to point out that blocklists are a joke. Your wasting your time with them. The VPN in theory could have some benefit in protecting against having to deal with a copyright infringement suit. However its such a non-issue due to the insignificant risk of a suit in the first place. It is utterly pointless to take steps to protect oneself in these situations. I should also point out that even if your not infringing copyright there is a risk you'll be named in one of these lawsuits. People have been named who do not even own a computer.

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chris- I use bittorrent clients rather often now and pop corn even more. I am aware of the matter that it would not be the end of the world if you went through what you called "the worst scenario" and agree with you on this. It was actually quantumgravity who raised some doubts about p2p applications, not me. I just said the new version of poppp has a vpn built-in.
I don't think blocklists are a joke - they block little but they block it!
a good blocklist is not a joke!
that is only your opinion and you don't provide a reason why you think they're a joke..

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quantumgravity
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I don't like the sound of "tor-like network".
Why not just design a bittorrent client that uses tor in a secure way?

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tribler is sooo slow