Professional Photography Tools Free Software

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nevermoreraven
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What are all the programs that a professional photographer would use if he had to only use free software?
Is their a meta package to install it all? How do I request this feature in trisquel?

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GIMP + the UFRaw extension I guess. However Trisquel's repository has other programs that handle the RAW formats: RawTherapee and Darktable.

And there are programs to organize (chronologically, with tags, etc.) the pictures. Shotwell in particular.

moxalt
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Yeah. I'd recommend Shotwell, GIMP, and the UFRaw extensions. That should
pretty much be all you need- a pretty decent photography suite.

nevermoreraven
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Why is shotwell all of a sudden recommended over the older ones that came before it? Well shotwell seems to be a new comer. What features makes it better than let's say f-spot?

lembas
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I guess one thing is f-spot depends on mono.

nevermoreraven
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What is wrong with mono? non free?

lembas
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Sorta, while the code is free it's got Micro$ofts patents hanging heavy over it. Thus it's probably not a good idea to rely on mono software. Tomorrow it all might be gone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29#Mono_and_Microsoft.27s_patents

moxalt
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No. It's rather that Mono belongs in the C# ecosystem, so even if it is free,
it is code firmly under the thumb of Microsoft.

lembas
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Sorta, while the code is free it's got Micro$ofts patents hanging heavy over
it. Thus it's probably not a good idea to rely on mono software. Tomorrow it
all might be gone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29#Mono_and_Microsoft.27s_patents

nevermoreraven
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What should I use for Color management?
gnome-color-manager or dispcalgui?

Color management is used so that the image you see on the screen is the same on different monitors or when printing out a photo.

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You might as well need the following packages, with the reason after
the colons:

icc-profiles-free: Provides color profiles for use with Scribus.
Provides the following profiles:
* /usr/share/color/icc/Gray-CIE_L.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/CineonLog_M_Knee_10.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/CineonLog_M.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/Gray.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/FOGRA29L.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/sRGB.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/CineonLog_M_Knee_20.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/CineLogCurve.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/FOGRA40L.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/LCMSXYZI.ICM
* /usr/share/color/icc/compatibleWithAdobeRGB1998.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/ITULab.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/TR003.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/CineonLog_M_Knee_30.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/LStar-RGB.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/TR006.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/TR005.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/FOGRA28L.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/FOGRA30L.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/FOGRA39L.ti3
* /usr/share/color/icc/LCMSLABI.ICM
* /usr/share/color/icc/CineonLog_M_Knee_60.icc
* /usr/share/color/icc/TR002.ti3
argyll: Has a command called Colprof, which creates .icc profiles from
.ti3 files. Needed because Inkscape reads only .icc files as color files
.

Note: If you're using Inkscape with color profiles, be aware that:
when creating a project with Inkscape, you must link the color profile
that you want to use in the project's properties. For example, if you
plan to use a CMYK color profile like FOGRA27L (one of the most used
CMYK color profiles worldwide) or FOGRA39L (preferred by FOGRA over
FOGRA27L), go to the project's properties, and in color management,
select the desired profile and link it to the project. Then, for every
object in the project, check whether their fill and stroke have color
management enabled and set to that color profile (if I'm not mistaken,
there must be a tab called "CMS", where you can enable or disable
color management for the objects). Be carefully though, I don't know
if Inkscape enables color management for objects automatically once a
color profile has been linked, so you might as well stay in the safe
side and double check. Also, if you want to import .svg images to
Scribus, and if these images use a color standard other than RGB, make
sure to export then to other image format, preferable a lossless one,
and then import these to Scribus.

We must also consider the paper weight (grams per square meter of
paper ream) of the paper being used. I'm still trying to understand
this concept as I'm quite inexperienced in printed graphics design.
But I have been told that the paper weight can affect the choice of
color profile too.

Also, you'll probably come to a dead end in the following situations:

* If you don't know which color profile the printer will be using.
"CMYK" is not enough, as we have "Pantone", FOGRA27L, FOGRA39L, SWOP
v2.0, and so on;

* If color profiles fall under functional data according to the free
software philosophy (that's quite likely to be the case, as we have a
package for this matter, the icc-profiles-free package). AND IF the
printer doesn't use one of the profiles from the icc-profiles-free
package. In this case, we won't be able to help you much regarding the
installation of this non-free functional data, and you'll have to get
the color profile either with those responsible for printing, or via
any other means.

As general tips (from the video linked in the additional references):

* When handing the project to those responsible for printing, get then
a list of the colors with their CMYK hexadecimal values side-by-side
with their HSL values;

* Ask if the organization responsible for printing can get you a
printed preview, even if you need to pay them to do so;

* If they ask for the source files, they'll probably mess up with your
work;

* I have seem some article saying that PostScript is the "native"
format used by printers nowadays. I just can't confirm the
reference/source as I don't remember where I have seem it.

REFERENCES

http://www.color.org/chardata/FOGRA27.xalter

http://www.color.org/chardata/FOGRA39.xalter

ADDITIONAL REFERENCES

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammage

http://hemingway.softwarelivre.org/fisl16/high/41c/sala_41c-high-2015071
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hack and hack
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So that's dealing with CMYK to RGB?

How do you do it in a proprietary software?
I mean what is your goal exactly?

Is it to have a printed picture,
and to use it to make the sRGB version look as close as possible
(provided your screen is rather neutral, and calibrated)?
So it's to prepare them for web use?
I think GIMP should be able to handle it.
For example, there are ways to colorize parts of an image.

Or is it to make them ready for print?
I think GIMP has "some" CMYK support.
Scribus has some CMYK support too (it's the "equivalent" of Indesign).

Maybe there's another software that can deal with that
(I'm thinking about the RAW softs suggested above).

nevermoreraven
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So the images look the same across different monitors and when I print them out on a printer they look as close as possible to how they look on the screen. This is how I do it with proprietary software I just use the same color profile with the screen as the printer and then it usually comes out nearly as the same as on the screen.

nevermoreraven
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So the images look the same across different monitors and when I print them out on a printer they look as close as possible to how they look on the screen. This is how I do it with proprietary software I just use the same color profile with the screen as the printer and then it usually comes out nearly as the same as on the screen.

hack and hack
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If you want them to look the same across different monitors,
you're going to have a hard time since most monitors aren't accurate in color display and/or aren't calibrated.
You'll often have slight differences with any image on the web, to my knowledge.

Regarding the printer, I have no actual experience with that, but I did read something along the lines of fine-tuning the printer one way or another.
Not sure it's the first way to go, but you also have http://localhost:631/
to fine-tune your printer's color display.
I don't know enough about the color profiles,
but my point is screens (unless it's a hi-fidelity, calibrated one) shouldn't be trusted.

If it's for online display, and you want to tweak the colors, I believe you need a good screen.
If it's for print, and if you don't have a hi-fi/calibrated screen, the best would be to play with a color chart (Pantone or another), and compare your printed picture with what you want, and adjust accordingly.

By the way, I have yet to figure out that Pantone stuff. It's a trademark, but I've read about alternatives, but I didn't went all the way yet.

nevermoreraven
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I think you can embed the color profile into the image you put up for display on the web. Not sure if you can do that with jpgs but when I open images in gimp sometimes it says if you want to use a different color profile than which is embedded with the photo. When I was taking photography classes at college that's how I did it you don't have to be spot on unless you really need it to be but just using the same color profile across devices will usually give you almost the same results as what you see on the screen.

hack and hack
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Oh, true, I remember that in Photoshop as well. I've never bothered with it because I never had to,
and of course because I didn't know what it was for.
Well I knew about (s)RBG and CMYK, but I didn't think of these as color profiles for some reason.
So since most screens are innacurate (specially laptops),
at least it keeps the numeric color display consistent. Interesting.

Then this might be of interest :
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-imaging-color-management.html
http://digital-photography-school.com/adding-icc-profiles-in-gimp/

nevermoreraven
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photocrap? GIMP RULES! :)

hack and hack
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Yeah I know, I'm simply reminiscing the past ;)

nevermoreraven
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um the adding icc profile in gimp shows you how to install non free adobe color profile. There is a free version of this called adobe 1998 compatible profile in the package icc-profiles-free.

hack and hack
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I was merely suggesting the method for installing a profile.

hack and hack
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Oh, true, I remember that in Photoshop as well. I've never bothered with it
because I never had to,
and of course because I didn't know what it was for.
Well I knew about (s)RBG and CMYK, but I didn't think of these as color
profiles for some reason.
So since most screens are innacurate (specially laptops),
at least it keeps the numeric color display consistent. Interesting.

Then this might be of interest :
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-imaging-color-management.html
http://digital-photography-school.com/adding-icc-profiles-in-gimp/

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Check rawtherapee.com

vita_cell
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wrong place, sorry

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Check rawtherapee.com

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