Search Engines in A Browser

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mayflower
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I would like to make a suggestion for a search engine to be preinstalled in A Browser. I haven't been able to add it myself: www.ixquick.com.

This is a meta search engine that gives you all the good results off google and yahoo - but without saving your IP. Duck Duck Go just doesn't produce the results I need...

Magic Banana

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You can add the Ixquick Web search engine from this page. Notice that DuckDuckGo does not save your IP address either (and, as far as I understood, the Trisquel project made a deal with DDG: money against being the default Web search engine):
(...) we do not store IP addresses or unique User agent strings (...)

mayflower
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Yes, Duck Duck go doesn't save my IP either. But the search results are a desaster (there just hardly are any...) and it is not available in foreign languages either - I often search in French or German. Thanks for the link, it worked perfectly well! I don't mind them (Duck Duck Go) being on there as A default search engine. But Google is preinstalled as well- so it should be possible to do the same with ixquick which is undoubtedly the only really good performing search engine that respects your privacy as far as I know.

Magic Banana

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I had the opposite experience: I was using Ixquick but switched to DuckDuckGo (before it was even included by default in Abrowser) because I found it more relevant. It is also much faster. Notice that DuckDuckGo is accent-sensitive. That might explain why some query did not return many results.

akirashinigami

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I search DuckDuckGo in Japanese sometimes, and get relevant results in Japanese.

Nathan
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I didn't read every reply, but I think Ixquick should at least be one of the default options, but DDG should remain the default because as DDG grows, I believe it will become more free, and improve in quality.

You can see how well DDG is doing here:
https://duckduckgo.com/traffic.html

Cyberhawk

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DDG requires some more work on users side, but 90% of the time I can find my stuff without going to google. Sometimes it does take a bit longer though.
What really rocks about DDG is the design. It doesn't load a whole new page to show more search results, but just loads some more results into the same page. Also it is very convenient to always have the input field on top of the screen, so you never have to scroll up in order to make a new query.

Potentially it is better than google, just because of small user-friendly things. Expression!i searches for images of an expression for example, same doesn't work in google. And I can't find any similar command for google that will directly address the image-search.

Nathan
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@mayflower This should let you add Ixquick:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-to-search-bar/
edit: or this https://www.ixquick.com/eng/download-ixquick-plugin.html

I haven't ran the beta of 5.5 yet, put the keyword.URL in Abrowser should be set to "https://www.duckduckgo.com/?q=" instead of "https://www.duckduckgo.com/?q=!+"

Having DDG do a bang is not what users expect.

We could even use DuckDucko HTML instead of the default version since their JavaScript may be proprietary.

I honsetly think Ixquick is the better choice. DuckDuckGo only does search, and links to non-free or websites, and ones that do not respect your freedom the same way. Instead of linking to say Google Images, they use their own image search. And it's more user friendly.

Magic Banana

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Ixquick not even "does search". It is a meta search engine. See, for instance, its "about" page:
When you search with Ixquick search engine, you are searching many popular search engines

As to "links to non-free websites", I assume you mean presenting, as results to a query, links to websites of non-free software (or do you want the Web to be published under a free license?!). I do not believe such a Web search engine exists. First of all, it looks impossible: we would need to manually read the whole Web to detect sites proposing non-free software. Then a website may host non-free software (or be made of non-free Javascript, is it what you meant?) but, besides, has useful informal that you read/watch without downloading the non-free code (or executing the non-free Javascript).

But maybe you wanted to talk about privacy... Actually I should stop writing and let you clarify what you meant! :-)

Nathan
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I meant how DDG has !bang links to say Google Maps. I don't mean censoring out results, I mean sites that rely heavily on proprietary javasccript

Magic Banana

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That is an interesting point.

Magic Banana

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That is an interesting point.

Horgeon
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My annoyance with DDG is the use of customization cookies. I run in private browsing and it deletes the cookie after the browser session so I have to go all the way again. Even with URL params you need a cookie. Ixquick creates an encrypted URL with your preferences so you just load it in your browser and voyla. Ixquick, however, does not give me relevant results in portuguese. I would use seeks.fr but I don't like that they show recent queries, even if it is anonymous. I'm currently looking for another engine.