Tegskywalker needs help
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Ranting and trolling on Trisquel mailing list and chatroom is a constant
in his writings. Possibly the best we can do is give him attention
because that is what he apparently seeks. I don't know how his childhood
was but problably the environment during those times had affected him in
ways he have not considered. This thread might channel his energy to
help him expose that missing or excess love he needs.
Please consider donating your time to this noble cause...
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Saludos libres,
Quiliro Ordóñez
Presidente
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El 12/10/12 18:40, name at domain escribió:
> He did ask me, well y'know, to be intimate with him once. But none of
> the acts he suggested were my kind of thing. However, I do know
> people who are interested in that kind of thing and I'm beginning to
> feel that I was being selfish not mentioning that they recommend
> www.recon.com .
>
Althiough I am heterosexual, I don't think that being homosexual is
abusive or intimidating. I have friends that are homosexuals and
lesbians. These people do respect other people. On the other hand,
trolling does not. Nevertheless, it shows a high rate of agressiveness
which is linked with past resentment. This is a very important matter
for TegSkyWalker which affects us directly.
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Saludos libres,
Quiliro Ordóñez
Presidente
Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE
Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro
Quito, Ecuador
(593)2-253 5534
(593)2-259 5632
(593)8-454 8078
On Friday 12 Oct 2012 21:26:40 Quiliro Ordóñez wrote:
> El 12/10/12 18:40, name at domain escribió:
> > He did ask me, well y'know, to be intimate with him once. But none of
> > the acts he suggested were my kind of thing. However, I do know
> > people who are interested in that kind of thing and I'm beginning to
> > feel that I was being selfish not mentioning that they recommend
> > www.recon.com .
>
> Althiough I am heterosexual, I don't think that being homosexual is
> abusive or intimidating. I have friends that are homosexuals and
> lesbians. These people do respect other people. On the other hand,
> trolling does not. Nevertheless, it shows a high rate of agressiveness
> which is linked with past resentment. This is a very important matter
> for TegSkyWalker which affects us directly.
As a Brit who identifies as LGBT I find the apparent presumption that
I am a heterosexual attempting a pathetic insult a little confusing. I
was merely picking up on your original post with a bit of subculture
normative 'camp' humour about this NSFW post:
http://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-users/2012-June/009393.html
Leny
Posts like this are unnecessary and counter productive.
I request this thread be removed or locked.
I'm not gay, but I do respect those that are and live their lives as they want to live it. It is tough for many of them especially when they were younger and got picked on by those who were intolerant.
I know this thread is off topic, but I got laid last night. Did you?
Analizing Tegskywalker's responses, I can deduce he is not older than
15. That is valuable data to help him overcome his lack/excess of love
during his childhood. Possibly he was even subject to sexual harrasment.
Usually a person gives as has received in the past.
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Quiliro Ordóñez
Presidente
Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE
Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro
Quito, Ecuador
(593)2-253 5534
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You guessed it... spent most of my childhood with my mother's boyfriends watching me shower and paint me in acrylics.
El 13/10/12 18:16, name at domain escribió:
> You guessed it... spent most of my childhood with my mother's
> boyfriends watching me shower and paint me in acrylics.
>
So you confront that by harrassing your co-listers? Wouldn't it be more
productiive to address the problem directly?
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Quiliro Ordóñez
Presidente
Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE
Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro
Quito, Ecuador
(593)2-253 5534
(593)2-259 5632
(593)8-454 8078
There is no discussion of Trisquel here, only personal attacks. I doubt t3g wants this, nor do other members, including me.
Can this thread please be locked or deleted?
El 13/10/12 18:35, name at domain escribió:
> There is no discussion of Trisquel here, only personal attacks. I
> doubt t3g wants this, nor do other members, including me.
>
> Can this thread please be locked or deleted?
>
I think this thread is important because it issues an important issue:
community. It is not intended towards personal attacks. It is intended
to help a community member confront and solve issues with other members
without recurring to censorship. If a post is a personal attack, it is
not the whole thread that is.
Bad communication among members should be addressed as an important issue.
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Saludos libres,
Quiliro Ordóñez
Presidente
Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE
Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro
Quito, Ecuador
(593)2-253 5534
(593)2-259 5632
(593)8-454 8078
> It is not intended towards personal attacks. It is intended to help a community member confront and solve issues with other members without recurring to censorship.
Posting about a person's sexuality and maturity on a public forum hardly seems helpful.
I am not trying to censor you either. I just don't think this is the right place for whatever you are trying to do.
Besides, I still maintain that this topic is not related to Trisquel or free software in any way. Perhaps you should contact t3g and/or Ruben directly?
I am a member!
The people who use Trisquel are surely members of a 'club' or 'community' and are there to help one another if they feel able.
This thread re-inforces my belief that there should be two 'sections' to the forum, one for technical issues and one for general things.
As to 'moderating' the forum, IF Rueban is using Drupal for the site he has a problem. In its standard form there are only three levels 1)anonymous user or guest. 2)authenticated user or member (who can post ect.) or 3)administrator (who has total control over the whole site) not recommended .It needs an 'in between' control level to be able to control the forum.
I have been working on this and it is not complete (phase one) but perhaps people should take a look and partake in the Poll.
El 14/10/12 03:56, name at domain escribió:
>
>
> http://www.trisquel-users.com/
Funny http://www.trisquel-users.com/node/8 . Concerning the censorship
part, what is the point?
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Saludos libres,
Quiliro Ordóñez
Presidente
Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE
Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro
Quito, Ecuador
(593)2-253 5534
(593)2-259 5632
(593)8-454 8078
What the hell is going on here? Can someone explain?
We are often in long theads dues to trolling. Of course, sex, used as a joke is pointless and offensive. But as a comunity, we should talk about what is doing difficult our collaboration and understanding. Saying "It is not the topic we discuss here" when it is a reason of common issues between us, is closing our eyes to our problems.
I would promote talking between memebers for solving problems, even when it needs a whole thead (even a section!), better than banning or other kind of punishments. It is my sense of community.
I think there is a real problem. Usually if people dare to start this kind of topic and with their real name, there is a real problem. The OP named a few problems already. So, if there really is a person who only trolls and complains and makes no effort to work for Free Software, and if the problem becomes so big that one is ready to talk about it here with his own name - knowing for sure how it can feed the troll - then I think a lot has already been done and asking for more would be about the same as ignoring the problem instead of doing something to it.
I am a member!
Of course if we had a moderatot to complain too that might solve the problem as people would be wary of starting such threads
Sorry for interrupting this conversation but.. Are you saying that even if anyone posted inappropriate messages or images on a new thread there would be no one to remove it ?
I have understood that we have a moderator here.
El 14/10/12 09:00, name at domain escribió:
> I think there is a real problem. Usually if people dare to start this
> kind of topic and with their real name, there is a real problem. The
> OP named a few problems already. So, if there really is a person who
> only trolls and complains and makes no effort to work for Free
> Software, and if the problem becomes so big that one is ready to talk
> about it here with his own name - knowing for sure how it can feed the
> troll - then I think a lot has already been done and asking for more
> would be about the same as ignoring the problem instead of doing
> something to it.
>
I think that concentrating the discussion on the problem in a sole
thread is very important. The best is to respect everybody's point of
view and considering not being offensive. If someone is disrupting the
flow of threads, it is not useful to ban them but to channel that energy
into something productive so that the rant becomes a chant. ;-). That is
the objective of this thread.
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Saludos libres,
Quiliro Ordóñez
Presidente
Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE
Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro
Quito, Ecuador
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Ah, I see it now and I agree xD
I have no idea what is going on here either. Some random guy on this forum out of the blue started calling me gay and attacked them in general. I'm not gay nor offended, but I think there is a language barrier assuming he isn't a native English speaker and Spanish. I'm not a victim of child abuse either and I find it comical that this is his best attempt in "attacking" an elite member of this forum.
This is going on.
1. Please explain the reasons of your rants and trolling against
several members of this list and #trisquel chatroom.
2. Please explain why you participate here if you disagree with the
position of Trisquel and the FSF.
3. Is it that you want to harass the members?
4. What is your objective?
The reason of this thread is that the general environment is mately,
creative and collaborative as it was in the past before the rants and
the trolling. The thread is public so you that confront the issue at
hand and not evade it via more trolling.
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Quiliro Ordóñez
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You are trying to divert the attention away from yourself as many people in this thread have called you out in your attempts at personally attacking others in this forum.
Looking at your signature, you seem to be a representative of the FSF Latin America. Do you think you are representing them in a smart way by trolling these message boards attacking others with homophobic bigotry?
I am sick of trolls.
Bit of fun off the internet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCchaOIIvOU
boo no webm!
El 15/10/12 10:55, name at domain escribió:
> You are trying to divert the attention away from yourself as many
> people in this thread have called you out in your attempts at
> personally attacking others in this forum.
>
I see you have answered no questions. Other people in this thread have
also expressed this concern.Please concentrate on this issue. Your
position is important to make decisions about how to deal with this in
the future. My position is not to ban anybody. It is always best if the
person either takes a better attitude towards respecting others or
excludes him/herself because of unresolvable issues with his/her peers.
> Looking at your signature, you seem to be a representative of the FSF
> Latin America. Do you think you are representing them in a smart way
> by trolling these message boards attacking others with homophobic
> bigotry?
>
I do not represent anybody but myself when I do not explicitly say so. I
do not think that solving a trolling issue (as has been stated by
several members of this forum) is trolling. Please cite exacly where I
have expressed homophobia. I recall only you have made sexually
offensive comments.
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Saludos libres,
Quiliro Ordóñez
Board Member
Free software FoundationLatiin America
Presidente
Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE
Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro
Quito, Ecuador
(593)8-454 8078 (desactivado temporalmente por viaje)
So, t3g, if you don't like this way, please, tell us which is your favourite mode for managing the issue. Collaboration by your part would be fantastic. Without it, this thread has no sense. Everyone would like knowing why your behaviour is like it is and what can we do for improving the communication. Make us believe that you are not intentionally disrupting just for disrupting. It is good for all!
PS: It is not the first time I ask you that question. I did it after you said me I had something as asperguer, probably you remember it.
Quiliro asked some interesting and good questions. I am waiting for the answers. And as a member of Free Software movement I think we should take care of those not so mature members and hope they grow up and become better people in general, if possible. Call it social responsibility, if you must, the phrase businesses used to tout around.
Tegskywalker,
I ask you again:
1. Please explain the reasons of your rants and trolling against
several members of this list and #trisquel chatroom.
2. Please explain why you participate here if you disagree with the
position of Trisquel and the FSF.
3. Is it that you enjoy this harassment to the members?
4. What is your objective?
At least answer question #2. Not answering or deviating from the
questions will give us reasons to think that all you want is to atack
the members of the Trisquel community.
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