Trisquel: a good distro for learning CLI?

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textillis
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Slack has a good claim to be the CLI distro par eminence.

Mint (my other OS), not so much, in fact, not at all.

Where does Trisquel slot in along this scale?

Slack: CLI-based distro: high

Trisquel: CLI-based distro: ????

Mint: CLI-based distro: low

Opinions and experience and daily practice would be very interesting to hear about.

thx,
Tex

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You can use the CLI in any distro you like. In fact, if you choose text mode installation when installing Trisquel, you have the option to set up Trisquel without any graphical environment at all.

textillis
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Thanks, but not really the intent of the question.
I know that any distro will *allow* one to operate exclusively in CL mode.
The question in my mind relates to: to what extent do different distros *oblige* you to become good at CLI.

As I say in my original post: Slackware encourages one to learn it, because of the absence of a graphical package installer.
Whereas Mint and ubuntu positively discourage it, since they have tried to make themselves as much like windows as possible, with everything just a click and drag away.

I turned to linux for, among other things, the chance to learn the art of CL micro-computing. I got Slackware for that reason, installed on one of my drives, but the learning curve there was too steep so I reverted to Mint while I learn the shell commands.

finally, I guess I was just interested in the average trisquel user's opinion about CLI versus GUI, also to know their experience and practice with regard to same.

Cheers,
Tex

andrew
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On 01/06/13 17:31, godfreysown wrote:
> finally, I guess I was just interested in the average trisquel user's
> opinion about CLI versus GUI, also to know their experience and
> practice with regard to same.

I use both (but mostly GUI) and I think operating systems that encourage
CLI usage are useful operating systems. However, I also think that
projects like Trisquel which have secondary aims of providing GUIs to
make using a computer easier are also a step in the right direction.
Many users aren't comfortable with using a CLI and having a GUI frontend
has its uses.

At the same time, I hope there will always be decent CLI programs for as
many GUI programs on GNU/Linux as possible. I'm not a frequent CLI user,
but to my knowledge Debian- and Ubuntu-based distros do mostly achieve
this. But perhaps they don't really "encourage" it (especially Ubuntu)
unlike some CLI-focused distros.

Perhaps a little off-topic, but have you heard of Parabola?
(https://parabolagnulinux.org/) It's an FSF-endorsed GNU/Linux
distribution based on Arch, which might have goals /similar/ to
Slackware, which you might be interested in. :-)

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quantumgravity
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I really don't understand why anyone should need the "push" of a distro to use the CLI;
if you want to use it, then just start. Throw away all graphical configuration tools, maybe install another desktop environment like fluxbox and delete everything remaining from gnome.

For people who want to work almost CLI only, but need things like a graphical browser or a running xserver for certain purposes, I can recommend the desktop-environment "herbstluftwm".
It's very keyboard-based, very different to other DEs and extremely simplistic.
You can control with your keyboard how your screen will be parted; every part can be "filled" with windows and some users give one default part to the terminal.
Maybe an option for you.

Telstar
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I don't like the way some GNU/Linux distros are fading the importance of cli away. I need to learn git and emacs in order to further a project I volunteer in. Also, small, embedded computers like routers etc. are more than often CLI-only, which is an effective way of thinking and do computing. You could try Parabola GNU/Linux, gNewSense or any other libre distro if you don't like the Trisquel way.

edit: it's GNU/Linux

icarolongo
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Joined: 03/26/2011

We need more and more GUI for applications and not the inverse. Many tools and software in GNU/Linux have both and it's good.

I'm against CLI-only like GUI-only. The new user don't need to know all the commands of the system.

icarolongo
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Joined: 03/26/2011

The answer for textillis: If you would like to have only CLI and the power to compiling all - use Dragora[0][1] :-).

[0] http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
[1] http://www.dragora.org/

onpon4
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Joined: 05/30/2012

I don't see the point in specifically looking for a distro which is unable to provide a graphical interface. You can use text-only mode, or you can use the graphical terminal. Having access to the graphical interface as a fallback can even be helpful for learning.