What alterative to Skype is the best ?

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Stem
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Hello,

I'm looking for a FLOSS alternative to skype, but i don't know which one to choose between Riot, Ring, Tox and so on. In terms of functionalities, usability and user-friendliness, wich one would you choose ?

Thanks

Magic Banana

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I use Wire: http://wire.com

It is great.

Majin Buu
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Unfortunately, if you use Wire trough their own servers, the program is not free for you, due to their terms of service:

"a. You may not: (a) remove any proprietary notices from the Service or any copy of software provided to you by the Company (“Software”); (b) cause, permit or authorize the modification, creation of derivative works, translation, reverse engineering, decompiling, disassembling or hacking of the Apps, the Service or any Software; (c) sell, assign, rent, lease, act as a service bureau, or grant rights in the Apps, the Service or any Software, including, without limitation, through sublicense, to any other person or entity without the prior written consent of the Company; or (d) make any false, misleading or deceptive statement or representation regarding the Company and/or the Apps, the Site or the Service." https://wire.com/en/legal/

Part (b) doesn't respect freedom 1. Hence, Wire is not free software if you use it with Wire servers. Although that, it's free if you use it on your own server or on another one.

Stem
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Wire keeps a list of all the users you contact until you delete your account, this is a big privacy issue.

aloniv

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Wire is based on Electron which contains embedded Chromium and is thus considered non-free by Hyperbola and Parabola (also Riot depends on it). You can use SIP software such as Linphone (with a free SIP account, e.g. by Linphone or Ekiga) or GNU Ring instead. You can also use Mumble or Tox. Tox and Ring are both decentralized.

https://ekiga.im/?page=register
https://www.linphone.org/free-sip-service.html

Magic Banana

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Unless you can point at at proprietary code in Electron, it *is* free software. Even the Free Software Foundation says so: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Electron

Idem for Wire: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Wire

Wire clients are under the GPLv3:

Wire server is under the AGPLv3: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wireapp/wire-server/master/LICENSE

At the beginning of this year, I checked every .js and .css file in wire-desktop: https://trisquel.info/forum/videotelephony-trisquel-7#comment-126629

Chromium's source code is mostly free: there is no legal or ethical reason not to reuse in other free software projects Chromium's code that is unambiguously free.

aloniv

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There might be other issues not pertaining to the license, e.g. implementation of Google Authenticator API:

https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop/blob/master/electron/src/js/lib/googleAuth.ts

I know one implementation of a Google Authenticator uses obfuscation which is why it was removed from Hyperbola:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853236

Magic Banana

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The file you are pointing to does not exist. I looked (again) at every file in wire-desktop/electron/src/js/lib/. No obfuscation. And a clear GPLv3+ license notice on each file.

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User0
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try Gnu ring

Stem
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The video quality is awful.

User0
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And signal

Stem
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I find signal really interesting, the app is recommended by Edward Snowden himself.

User0
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But not from stallman
i cant find any document that he approve it .

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