How to install Xubuntu in Trisquel?
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Hello all, I am trying to do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to install that window manager, but it doesnt work in trisquel. Why?
Thanks!
/david
David,
xubuntu uses xfce as it's Desktop Environment/Window Manager. So all you would have to do is install xfce and that should get you where you want to be.
I run xfce instead of the default myself because it is much more customizable.
grimlok
Thanks grimlock. Would you mind sharing the command to install xfce?
/david
sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
if you want whiskermenu, add: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
indicators (if you want them)
sudo apt-get install xfce4-indicator-plugin network-manager-gnome
sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install indicator-sound
--no-install-recommend = stops installing extra packages at almost 200MB
After this their is theming. Default XFCE dont look good. Look here for some themes: http://xfce-look.org/
Hello all, I am trying to do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to
install that window manager, but it doesnt work in trisquel. Why?
Thanks!
/david
sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
xfce4-indicator-plugin network-manager-gnome
sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install indicator-sound
--no-install-recommend = stops installing extra packages at almost 200MB
Thanks grimlock. Would you mind sharing the command to install xfce?
/david
If you like xubuntu default theme, greybird, just install murrine-themes and it will be available in appearance configuration.
jbar, I just tried xubuntu the other day and liked the theme. Thanks!
some backgrounds: xubuntu-community-wallpapers
search after xfce in synaptic and you will get a long list of plugins and other software. I think xfce4-goodies installs big bunch of xfce software.
Ive got it up and running. I definitely like this more than Gnome. Thanks!
I created a page in the wiki for how to install XFCE on Trisquel 7. Hope it will help people in the future searching for how to install XFCE.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-xfce
I created a page in the wiki for how to install XFCE on Trisquel 7. Hope it
will help people in the future searching for how to install XFCE.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-xfce
Ive got it up and running. I definitely like this more than Gnome. Thanks!
some backgrounds: xubuntu-community-wallpapers
search after xfce in synaptic and you will get a long list of plugins and
other software. I think xfce4-goodies installs big bunch of xfce software.
jbar, I just tried xubuntu the other day and liked the theme. Thanks!
You know, after all that fuss I made, I've been using XFCE for a few days now and it's so fragmented! Way more than Unity and Trisquel desktops. Thunar file manager is especially annoying... No search!? I was trying to avoid figuring out how to revert my broken Trisquel Desktop and ended up just reverting back to my initial Clonezilla image. What I am learning is GNU/Linux Desktop environments are pretty fragile. From now on, I will log any changes I make to my system and associate it with fairly frequent Clonezilla images.
Actually I'm not a disappointed as I may seem. I love this learning process. I'm finally understanding what it means to take full responsibility for my software based choices :) The empowerment I get from using GNU/Linux is way worth it!
"I've been using XFCE for a few days now and it's so fragmented!"
Welcome to the world of projects with few developers. I believe this is a problem with forking and lack off cooperation in the free software or open source world. People alone are working their asses off their forks but much isnt happning in general in the community.
Saving/logging the changes you make is a good choice. Everyone running GNU/Linux eventually does that.
Searching:
Use Catfish?
http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/custom-actions
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25841#p25841
?
I don't think DE are fragile. Specially xfce is pretty stable. Did you install xfce from trisquel repositories?
Yes. By fragile I mean, if you customize the UI, its difficult to just reset it back to when it was not customized.
You can always remove all files in the home folder that start with a dot. All application will go back to their default settings.
Yes. By fragile I mean, if you customize the UI, its difficult to just reset
it back to when it was not customized.
"I've been using XFCE for a few days now and it's so fragmented!"
Welcome to the world of projects with few developers. I believe this is a
problem with forking and lack off cooperation in the free software or open
source world. People are working their asses off their forks but much isnt
happening. Some days ago someone in the forum wanted to fork Trisquel to make
a Openbox version. I and others said that isnt it better to make it part of
Trisquel. The tone in the thread was a bit hard and judging of the guy who
wanted to start that project. Then the thread died... Start helping each
other instead of attacking.
Maybe people want to create their own thing that is almost the same as many
other projects, their baby. The feel they have created something of their
own.
Saving/logging the changes you make is a good choice. Everyone running
GNU/Linux eventually does that.
Searching:
Use Catfish?
http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/custom-actions
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=25841#p25841
?
I don't think DE are fragile. Especially xfce is pretty stable. Did you
install xfce from trisquel repositories?
GNU/Linux not Linux
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.en.html
Yes, I know the difference. I'll amend my post.
Yes, I know the difference. I'll amend my post.
Thanks ;-)
Here's another way of installing the Xubu look into Trisquel
http://linuxthemer.blogspot.co.uk/p/xubuntu-with-pure-debian-base-part-2.html
I am a translator!
>I've been using XFCE for a few days now and it's so fragmented
The magnificent Xfce has been around for 20 years now, polished, patched, tweaked and made as stable as it gets.
If you find it "fragmented" you are doing it wrong. Maybe try and compile 4.12 on a fresh netinstall and enjoy.
I have to respectfully disagree on this one. The experience just isn't very consistent compared to the non-free OSes. I know I may be compared unfairly, but we do have living examples of stuff that looks awesome. I think we could at least mimic the feel. I feel the same way about lots of Linux stuff that is super old and stable but just kind of funky and "unique". That's what I mean by fragmented.
The work involved in making Trisquel is different and certainly more harassing and ungrateful
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-trisquel-made
Ubuntu-purge: A set of scripts that clean up the main upstream repositories, removing non-free packages and branding.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/development-0
You may not find it looks "awesome"compared to certain other
OS's but many of these fancy looking OS's are not Free as in Freedom
If you're an Ubuntu user and you're using the default settings, each time you start typing in Dash (to open an application or search for a file on your computer), your search terms get sent to a variety of third parties, some of which advertise to
You can Liberate Xubuntu on a fresh installation by removing the repos from Restricted and Multiverse repos and all proprietary software, disable these repos under Software Sources.and not install the proprietary codecs,remove the Ubuntu App looking Software Center ,install Synaptic package manager,then install Libre-Kernel from
https://jxself.org/linux-libre
reboot,run...see if all is ok,then remove all the Ubuntu's kernels
If this is fragmentation ....i'd rather say you have great power to do many things among having the choice of what you consider respects your freedom
Mangy Dog, TOTALLY AGREE. I don't use XUbuntu :)
I was trying XFCE because I saw Xubuntu in action and I liked the look. Please understand I am totally onboard with the GNU vision. The fragmentation im talking about is really just inconsistency in the user experience when it comes to the GUI of for example, XFCE. I find it is very easy for me to just break the GUI. Actually, in Trisquel Desktop I recently messed up my GUI and its so unfortunate that it isnt easy to just be able to reset it pretty easily.
Again, I want to restate that I LOVE the GNU vision and I think Trisquel is a beautiful distro. I wish I could help out with the UX when it comes to the GUI. I am not sure if there is a place for someone to suggest non-bug related requests. As someone who has worked with developers, I know that feature requests often get shrugged off.
I really didn't mean to sound like I'm not grateful for what we've got. I very much am!
/david
No no i didn't mean to say you sounded ungrateful it's just
that making a Libre distribution involves some form of reverse
engineering which others don't have to do,let's say they have to bolt the head gasket twice at 30NM & 2 times 70°...when others just ship it as is..
No no i didn't mean to say you sounded ungrateful it's just
that making a Libre distribution involves some form of reverse
engineering which others don't have to do,let's say they have to bolt the
head gasket twice at 30NM & 2 times 70°...when others just ship it as is..
Mangy Dog, TOTALLY AGREE. I don't use XUbuntu :)
I was trying XFCE because I saw Xubuntu in action and I liked the look.
Please understand I am totally onboard with the GNU vision. The fragmentation
im talking about is really just inconsistency in the user experience when it
comes to the GUI of for example, XFCE. I find it is very easy for me to just
break the GUI. Actually, in Trisquel Desktop I recently messed up my GUI and
its so unfortunate that it isnt easy to just be able to reset it pretty
easily.
Again, I want to restate that I LOVE the GNU vision and I think Trisquel is a
beautiful distro. I wish I could help out with the UX when it comes to the
GUI. I am not sure if there is a place for someone to suggest non-bug related
requests. As someone who has worked with developers, I know that feature
requests often get shrugged off.
I really didn't mean to sound like I'm not grateful for what we've got. I
very much am!
/david
Just some examples of great xfce configurations:
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/magic-mushrooms/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/spider-in-love/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/05/26/xubuntu-13-10-2/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/psychedelic-xubuntu-13-10/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/10/22/tuesdays-gone-with-the-wind/
And a couple of good sites to look for inspiration and tips:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=47
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewforum.php?id=8
Thanks Jbar!
Definitely shows how one can customize GNU/Linux.
For sure. Any desktop environment or window manager can look awesome.
For sure. Any desktop environment or window manager can look awesome.
The work involved in making Trisquel is different and certainly more
harassing and ungrateful
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-trisquel-made
Ubuntu-purge: A set of scripts that clean up the main upstream repositories,
removing non-free packages and branding.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/development-0
You may not find it looks "awesome"compared to certain other
OS's but many of these fancy looking OS's are not Free as in Freedom
If you're an Ubuntu user and you're using the default settings, each time you
start typing in Dash (to open an application or search for a file on your
computer), your search terms get sent to a variety of third parties, some of
which advertise to
But you can Liberate Xubuntu on a fresh installation by removing the repos
from Restricted and Multiverse repos and all proprietary software, disable
these repos under Software Sources.and not install the proprietary
codecs,remove the Ubuntu App looking Software Center ,install Synaptic
package manager,then install Libre-Kernel from
https://jxself.org/linux-libre
reboot,run...see if all is ok,then remove all the Ubuntu's kernels
If this is fragmentation ....i'd rather say you have great power to do many
things among having the choice of what you consider respects your freedom
Just some examples of xfce great configurations:
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/magic-mushrooms/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/spider-in-love/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/05/26/xubuntu-13-10-2/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/psychedelic-xubuntu-13-10/
https://irenegr.wordpress.com/2013/10/22/tuesdays-gone-with-the-wind/
And a couple of good sites to look for inspiration and tips:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=47
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewforum.php?id=8
I have to respectfully disagree on this one. The experience just isn't very
consistent compared to the non-free OSes. I know I may be compared unfairly,
but we do have living examples of stuff that looks awesome. I think we could
at least mimic the feel. I feel the same way about lots of Linux stuff that
is super old and stable but just kind of funky and "unique". That's what I
mean by fragmented.
If you want to get a desktop that works like Xubuntu, but minus the non-free software, maybe installing XFCE, Xubuntu's wallpapers, and Xubuntu's theme on Trisquel, then booting into the Xubuntu Live CD and taking the configuration files (make the file manager show hidden files and take the .config (if I'm not mistaken - I hope XFCE houses its config files there) folder in the Live CD's home folder) and then copying it to your Trisquel installation will help.
Or you could just install Xubuntu's wallpapers and theme(s) on Trsquel (I think it's in the repos - install their standalone packages)and configure it to your liking "manually"......
I am a translator!
Greybird gtk theme in /usr/share/themes
elementary-xfce icon theme in /usr/share/icons
Congrats! You got yourself Xubuubbnunntu.
https://github.com/shimmerproject
P.S- reverting the Xfce DE to its default looks and settings is trivially easy. I do think you just lack experience with it. Respectfully, mate. cheers
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