Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

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mYself
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In case you missed yesterday's news on Phoronix:

Debian Founder Ian Murdock Passes Away

I hope that everyone here is alive and well.

Mzee
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RIP Ian Murdock

clinsc
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RIP.

All evidence leads to the conclusion that he suicided after being a victim of police abuse, you could call it covert psychological murder.

Here are some archives of his twitter before it was closed:
https://archive.is/9HF4c
https://archive.is/DcVrY

onpon4
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I think he may have been tragically mistaken about how big of a news story his experience would be. Some of his tweets suggest that he thought the death of a white man would get more attention in the media than the death of a black man, but realistically, the whole reason cases of police brutality against black people get publicized so much is specifically because they're black. All sorts of people face police brutality, but it's black people who were systematically oppressed in the past (through slavery, Jim Crow laws, and the stuff in between), and that makes it especially easy for us to get really angry when a white person does wrong to a black person.

I don't expect this to get any substantial coverage far outside of GNU/Linux circles, to be honest. And if it does, I think most people will forget about it pretty quickly.

onetechbuddy
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You are right. Media always covers sensational things. To my surprise though the Indian mainstream media has covered this news.

onetechbuddy
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You are right. Media always covers sensational things. To my surprise though
the Indian mainstream media has covered this news.

onetechbuddy
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Ian will be missed and remembered.

Mangy Dog

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I am a translator!

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After the wet season, when the northwest monsoon has finished and before the southeast trade winds begin, various items wash up on the beaches around Cape Arnhem and Yirrkalla. Among these items are coconuts, breadfruit, pandanus cones, long seed pods, as well as timber and the occasional canoe. The people in these areas believed these to be gifts from the jiridja spirits to the relatives who are still living. They also believe the northeast winds and the clouds are also gifts to them from the jiridja spirits. The living send the spirits of their dead by performing the mortuary rites and singing the appropriate songs.
http://www.austhrutime.com/land_of_the_dead.htm

We owe you so much
Sad
Rest in Peace Ian

To Ian.png
Jabjabs
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Roll on Ian.

I won't comment on the issues of what lead to this event as there just isn't enough information yet. That said we do need to look into it to get to the bottom of issue regardless of what it was.

Jodiendo
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I suspect that he was murder by someone, who knew him well by his success and achievements, and by his wealth.
I read the transcript and defiantly someone order his death, just trying to derail hes commitment to the community. They knew his weakness and did maximize it. Why not hire a private body guard? and let friends about hes fear? Hes death was intentional and not suicidal. It is so wrong and shady! Did he reach someone to help him out.

Sad loss

t3g
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Before his death, he said some bigoted and racial comments on Twitter, which were later removed.

t3g
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Before his death, he said some bigoted and racial comments on Twitter, which
was later removed.

muhammed
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Ian's family could retain a local lawyer to investigate. Maybe the police version is correct. If the family cares to find out, they should ask for the police radio recording, cell phone records, police car computer text message records, police officer notes, 911 call audio (for the reported break-in and description of suspect), police car video, police body camera video, and try to identify and interview witnesses.

Sad ending no matter what led up to this ...

Legimet
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RIP Ian Murdock.

This is very sad news. Unfortunately, as onpon4 said, I don't think this is going to bring very much attention to the issue of police brutality.
And to the people calling him "bigoted," please take a look at the context of his tweet.

Jodiendo
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Legimet

As I further my reading on Murdock forum, I realize: too many grammatical errors, Bulgar expressions, racial profiling, very incoherent. Someone else was writing for him and not himself.

Some people only read, what ever they want to hear and not the WHOLE STORY.

Jodiendo
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Legimet

That is Exactly what happen, to me few times; as I further my reading on
Murdock forum, I realize, too many grammatical errors, Bulgar expressions,
racial profiling, very incoherent. Someone else was writing for him and not
himself.

Spme people only read, what ever they want to hear and not the WHOLE STORY.

MeNoMore
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RIP

mYself
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Yesterday, the Debian Project published an article, which is a tribute to Ian's life:

https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160105

To reflect the loss, they darkened the main page banner and added a black ribbon to the Debian logo. Also, an email address name at domain was created, which can be used to send your condolences to Murdock's family.

Mzee
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RIP Ian Murdock

clinsc
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RIP.

All evidence leads to the conclusion that he suicided after being a victim of
police abuse, you could call it covert psychological murder.

Here are some archives of his twitter before it was closed:
https://archive.is/9HF4c
https://archive.is/DcVrY

onpon4
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Joined: 05/30/2012

I think he may have been tragically mistaken about how big of a news story
his experience would be. Some of his tweets suggest that he thought the death
of a white man would get more attention in the media than the death of a
black man, but realistically, the whole reason cases of police brutality
against black people get publicized so much is specifically because they're
black. All sorts of people face police brutality, but it's black people who
were systematically oppressed in the past (through slavery, Jim Crow laws,
and the stuff in between), and that makes it especially easy for us to get
really angry when a white person does wrong to a black person.

I don't expect this to get any substantial coverage far outside of GNU/Linux
circles, to be honest. And if it does, I think most people will forget about
it pretty quickly.

onetechbuddy
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Joined: 05/26/2014

Ian will be missed and remembered.

Mangy Dog

I am a member!

I am a translator!

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Joined: 03/15/2015

After the wet season, when the northwest monsoon has finished and before the
southeast trade winds begin, various items wash up on the beaches around Cape
Arnhem and Yirrkalla. Among these items are coconuts, breadfruit, pandanus
cones, long seed pods, as well as timber and the occasional canoe. The people
in these areas believed these to be gifts from the jiridja spirits to the
relatives who are still living. They also believe the northeast winds and the
clouds are also gifts to them from the jiridja spirits. The living send the
spirits of their dead by performing the mortuary rites and singing the
appropriate songs.
http://www.austhrutime.com/land_of_the_dead.htm

We owe you so much
Sad
Rest in Peace Ian

Jabjabs
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Joined: 07/05/2014

Roll on Ian.

I won't comment on the issues of what lead to this event as there just isn't
enough information yet. That said we do need to look into it to get to the
bottom of issue regardless of what it was.

Jodiendo
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Joined: 01/09/2013

I suspect that he was murder by someone, who knew him well by his success and
achievements, and by his wealth.
I read the transcript and defiantly someone order his death, just trying to
derail hes commitment to the community. They knew his weakness and did
maximize it. Why not hire a private body guard? and let friends about hes
fear? Hes death was intentional and not suicidal. It is so wrong and shady!
Did he reach someone to help him out.

Sad loss

muhammed
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Joined: 04/13/2013

Ian's family could retain a local lawyer to investigate. Maybe the police
version is correct. If the family cares to find out, they should ask for the
police radio recording, cell phone records, police car computer text message
records, police officer notes, 911 call audio (for the reported break-in and
description of suspect), police car video, police body camera video, and try
to identify and interview witnesses.

Sad ending no matter what led up to this ...

Legimet
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Joined: 12/10/2013

RIP Ian Murdock.

This is very sad news. Unfortunately, as onpon4 said, I don't think this is
going to bring very much attention to the issue of police brutality.
And to the people calling him "bigoted," please take a look at the context of
his tweet.

MeNoMore
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Joined: 10/05/2015

RIP

mYself
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Joined: 01/18/2012

Yesterday, the Debian Project published an article, which is a tribute to
Ian's life:

https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160105

To reflect the loss, they darkened the main page banner and added a black
ribbon to the Debian logo. Also, an email address name at domain
was created, which can be used to send your condolences to Murdock's family.